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Gagne not throwing the changeup enough

Back when the Brewers signed Eric Gagne last December, Keith Law who writes for Scouts Inc on ESPN.com noted the following about his time in Boston:
...There wasn't anything wrong with his stuff: his four-seamer was mostly 92-94 mph and his "Vulcan" changeup was still an outpitch, 82-85 mph, with tumble and fade.
 The problem was pitch selection: He barely used the change, throwing mostly fastballs, even in obvious changeup counts (e.g., 1-2 to a left-handed hitter). Because his fastball is straight, hitters can time it if they know it's coming. The responsibility for pitch selection can fall on the pitcher or the catcher, depending on the team. But at some point, Red Sox catcher Jason Varitek or pitching coach John Farrell should have altered the pitching plan, or Gagne himself should have started shaking Varitek off when Varitek leaned too heavily on the fastball. None of this happened, and the results were predictably bad... 

Law was at the Brewers game on Thursday and along with some interesting observations on Manny Parra and Alcides Escobar (which you'll have to pay to read, sorry) Law updated his scouting report on Gagne, and it doesn't sound good:

• Eric Gagne threw in yesterday's game and continued a disturbing trend that started when he went to Boston last summer. Gagne faced four hitters, and went to two strikes on three of them. He threw two fastballs and one curve, but did not go to his changeup, his out-pitch during his dominant years with the Dodgers. His refusal to use that pitch in obvious changeup counts causes two problems. One, hitters can sit on his fastball, which he throws at least 80 percent of the time, and which has little movement. Two, it's a sign that he doesn't trust his change, which no longer has the great tumbling action it had when he was in L.A.; it's an above-average pitch, but he's not going to miss many bats with it. The Brewers are looking to Gagne to be their closer, but his stuff isn't going to produce the strikeout totals and quick innings most teams expect from that role.

Law's take on the Gagne's changeup seems to have darkened a little and with it, the overall outlook has taken a hit. We can hope that Gagne just isn't using the change much, and there have been reports this spring that he is one to work on pitches in spring and doesn't use his whole arsenal. But this makes it sound like he simply doesn't have a strikeout pitch anymore. If that is true, he probably will struggle at times in the closers spot.

There are no shortage of potential candidates for the job, including Derrick Turnbow, David Riskie, Salomon Torres, Guillermo Mota or maybe even Luis Pena or Seth McClung before the year is out. But all of those choices come with big question marks and Gagne has the longest track record of success in that role. If Gagne does need to be removed, it certainly will lead to plenty of criticism of the 1 year, 10 million dollar deal he signed this offseason.

Comments

 

Steves Stoners said:

Since it is only a one year deal it won't affect the brewers too much longterm giving him 10 million.  But if this is true about his changeup the burden of blame goes to DM and the scouts on this.  Obviously the Red Sox stint was a small sample size but something was clearly wrong there.  He had lost all his control and the Sox fans I know said "I would rather have Julian Tavarez in right now"  But clearly there is something to be said about his not being able to get out of innings and logging up walks.  In several of his outings from Sox fans viewpoints... he was getting vary favorable zones to get himself out of trouble kind of based on reputation.  While it is easy to say that well he pitched great before getting dealt and it was a small sample size and somewhat ignore the Sox stint.  It still needs to be checked into heavily before committing that type of money and if something is found to be not right with Gagne... the blame falls on DM IMO.

March 23, 2008 1:51 AM
 

Ryan Topp said:

Yes, the one year nature of the deal isn't going to make this a long term burden. But if they missed, then the responsibility is on the scouting staff. Of course, if Mota, Torres or Riskie are able to step up into the role, that will be mitigated, somewhat. The Mota thing is particularly interesting, because apparently the teams scouts saw something late last year that made them think he could be very effective again. The early returns on that, at least, are promising.

But if that ends up being 10 million down the drain, there will be some justifiable criticism of the deal.

March 24, 2008 11:51 AM
 

Between the Green Pillars said:

The way I see it, the ultimate success or failure of the Brewers season is going to depend on the following

March 30, 2008 2:01 PM

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