Before we delve into this question, I would like to take the time to introduce myself and present what I plan to bring to
Between the Green Pillars. My name is Ross LaVenture and I've been a Brewers fan my entire life. What I plan to bring to
Between the Green Pillars is a comparative look at statistics of active players compared to the Brewers' players. They will be similar to the ones I've posted on the Message Board. Most of you have read my posts/comparisons in the message boards, but if you haven't here's a list:
- Rickie Weeks
- Rotations and Rotation Depth in the NL
- A Look at the Brewers Offensively
Many people have argued that he is miscast as a leadoff hitter. What he's accomplished in the minors suggests he is, but what he has done so far in is major league career makes him a quality option as a leadoff hitter, in my mind. (I personally only care about OBP for a leadoff hitter, unless he's slugging over .500.) You can argue that if he was dropped in the lineup and allowed to swing away he would live up to his potential better, but as it stands now he is an above average leadoff hitter. I've got three tables in this blog that have statistics from just the leadoff spot. The requirements for the first table are at least 400 PA in 2008. This would be over half of the PA a leadoff hitter should see if he bats the whole year in that spot. Only 19 players qualified in 2008.
| Name |
PA |
AB |
H |
2B |
3B |
HR |
RBI |
BB |
SO |
HBP |
SF |
BA |
OBP |
SLG% |
| Rickie Weeks |
528 |
447 |
105 |
22 |
6 |
11 |
39 |
62 |
106 |
14 |
4 |
.235 |
.343 |
.385 |
| Brian Roberts |
702 |
609 |
181 |
51 |
8 |
9 |
57 |
82 |
104 |
2 |
6 |
.297 |
.379 |
.452 |
| Ichiro Suzuki |
748 |
686 |
213 |
20 |
7 |
6 |
42 |
50 |
65 |
5 |
4 |
.310 |
.360 |
.386 |
| Willy Taveras |
421 |
378 |
91 |
13 |
2 |
1 |
22 |
28 |
65 |
4 |
2 |
.241 |
.299 |
.294 |
| Alfonso Soriano |
492 |
443 |
127 |
27 |
0 |
29 |
75 |
42 |
100 |
3 |
4 |
.287 |
.350 |
.544 |
| Ian Kinsler |
578 |
514 |
165 |
41 |
4 |
18 |
71 |
44 |
66 |
6 |
3 |
.321 |
.377 |
.521 |
| Jacoby Ellsbury |
544 |
497 |
135 |
21 |
7 |
5 |
37 |
34 |
74 |
6 |
3 |
.272 |
.324 |
.372 |
| Johnny Damon |
606 |
541 |
165 |
27 |
5 |
17 |
70 |
61 |
79 |
1 |
1 |
.305 |
.376 |
.468 |
| Chone Figgins |
512 |
445 |
125 |
14 |
1 |
1 |
22 |
62 |
80 |
3 |
0 |
.281 |
.373 |
.324 |
| Carlos Gomez |
415 |
394 |
97 |
16 |
4 |
5 |
33 |
15 |
97 |
4 |
0 |
.246 |
.281 |
.345 |
| David Dejesus |
461 |
415 |
133 |
22 |
7 |
1 |
57 |
34 |
50 |
5 |
3 |
.320 |
.376 |
.480 |
| Hanley Ramirez |
622 |
533 |
162 |
32 |
4 |
32 |
63 |
79 |
107 |
8 |
2 |
.304 |
.400 |
.559 |
| Grady Sizemore |
745 |
634 |
170 |
39 |
5 |
33 |
90 |
98 |
130 |
11 |
2 |
.268 |
.374 |
.502 |
Curtis Granderson |
590 |
517 |
143 |
24 |
13 |
20 |
63 |
68 |
106 |
3 |
1 |
.277 |
.363 |
.489 |
| Jose Reyes |
763 |
688 |
204 |
37 |
19 |
16 |
68 |
66 |
82 |
1 |
3 |
.297 |
.358 |
.475 |
| Jimmy Rolins |
593 |
526 |
148 |
37 |
9 |
11 |
58 |
56 |
53 |
5 |
3 |
.281 |
.354 |
.449 |
| Akinori Iwamura |
706 |
626 |
172 |
30 |
9 |
6 |
48 |
70 |
130 |
4 |
3 |
.275 |
.350 |
.380 |
| Orlando Cabrera |
588 |
533 |
156 |
30 |
1 |
6 |
51 |
44 |
57 |
0 |
9 |
.293 |
.341 |
.386 |
| Skip Schumaker |
536 |
485 |
150 |
21 |
5 |
7 |
43 |
45 |
51 |
2 |
1 |
.309 |
.370 |
.416 |
This next table is for those players who had 1000 PA in the leadoff spot from 2006-2008. There are 18 guys who qualified.
| Name |
PA |
AB |
H |
2B |
3B |
HR |
RBI |
BB |
SO |
HBP |
SF |
BA |
OBP |
SLG% |
| Rickie Weeks |
1279 |
1076 |
270 |
51 |
13 |
35 |
101 |
149 |
266 |
41 |
8 |
.251 |
.361 |
.420 |
| Brian Roberts |
2039 |
1784 |
518 |
125 |
16 |
30 |
166 |
226 |
268 |
2 |
15 |
.290 |
.368 |
.429 |
| Ichiro Suzuki |
2236 |
2059 |
675 |
62 |
18 |
21 |
159 |
148 |
213 |
13 |
8 |
.328 |
.375 |
.406 |
| Willy Taveras |
1178 |
1066 |
296 |
37 |
6 |
4 |
62 |
70 |
170 |
18 |
4 |
.278 |
.332 |
.335 |
| Alfonso Soriano |
1679 |
1526 |
453 |
105 |
6 |
101 |
225 |
128 |
351 |
14 |
9 |
.297 |
.355 |
.572 |
| David Eckstein |
1130 |
1014 |
301 |
45 |
1 |
6 |
65 |
59 |
74 |
32 |
10 |
.297 |
.352 |
.361 |
| Dave Roberts |
1066 |
944 |
256 |
35 |
22 |
4 |
69 |
100 |
140 |
4 |
5 |
.271 |
.342 |
.368 |
| Johnny Damon |
1857 |
1653 |
453 |
88 |
10 |
53 |
210 |
193 |
240 |
7 |
9 |
.284 |
.360 |
.446 |
| Chone Figgins |
1376 |
1199 |
333 |
43 |
10 |
9 |
102 |
152 |
215 |
5 |
13 |
.278 |
.358 |
.353 |
| Juan Pierre |
1158 |
1084 |
308 |
44 |
17 |
3 |
60 |
47 |
63 |
11 |
2 |
.284 |
.320 |
.364 |
| David Dejesus |
1568 |
1380 |
404 |
79 |
21 |
16 |
153 |
131 |
183 |
35 |
11 |
.293 |
.369 |
.415 |
| Hanley Ramirez |
1740 |
1534 |
480 |
112 |
21 |
67 |
174 |
175 |
288 |
16 |
7 |
.313 |
.387 |
.544 |
| Grady Sizemore |
2199 |
1880 |
523 |
123 |
20 |
83 |
240 |
270 |
431 |
40 |
8 |
.278 |
.374 |
.497 |
Curtis Granderson |
1864 |
1656 |
470 |
92 |
43 |
61 |
198 |
180 |
401 |
10 |
8 |
.284 |
.356 |
.462 |
| Jose Reyes |
2227 |
2013 |
589 |
103 |
48 |
47 |
206 |
195 |
241 |
3 |
4 |
.293 |
.358 |
.462 |
| Jimmy Rolins |
2007 |
1818 |
523 |
115 |
34 |
66 |
221 |
156 |
205 |
16 |
14 |
.288 |
.347 |
.497 |
| Akinori Iwamura* |
1180 |
1048 |
287 |
48 |
17 |
12 |
77 |
112 |
233 |
5 |
8 |
.274 |
.344 |
.386 |
| Rafael Furcal |
1483 |
1226 |
394 |
63 |
15 |
26 |
123 |
140 |
171 |
2 |
3 |
.321 |
.391 |
.461 |
The final table is the career stats from the leadoff position for the guys mentioned in either 2008 or 2006-2008 tables.
| Name |
PA |
AB |
H |
2B |
3B |
HR |
RBI |
BB |
SO |
HBP |
SF |
BA |
OBP |
SLG% |
| Rickie Weeks |
1338 |
1127 |
285 |
51 |
13 |
39 |
111 |
156 |
280 |
41 |
9 |
.253 |
.362 |
.425 |
| Brian Roberts |
3981 |
3491 |
1002 |
244 |
29 |
57 |
335 |
420 |
510 |
7 |
26 |
.287 |
.362 |
.423 |
| Ichiro Suzuki |
5851 |
5392 |
1783 |
194 |
64 |
72 |
463 |
372 |
519 |
38 |
27 |
.331 |
.376 |
.430 |
| Willy Taveras |
1707 |
1565 |
441 |
48 |
8 |
6 |
83 |
89 |
256 |
23 |
7 |
.282 |
.328 |
.334 |
| Alfonso Soriano |
3296 |
3037 |
891 |
205 |
13 |
183 |
415 |
198 |
668 |
38 |
18 |
.293 |
.342 |
.550 |
| Ian Kinsler |
712 |
626 |
198 |
47 |
5 |
22 |
83 |
62 |
87 |
8 |
7 |
.316 |
.381 |
.513 |
| Jacoby Ellsbury |
607 |
553 |
151 |
24 |
7 |
6 |
41 |
40 |
82 |
7 |
6 |
.273 |
.328 |
.374 |
| Johnny Damon |
7159 |
6383 |
1845 |
345 |
65 |
159 |
743 |
653 |
772 |
31 |
57 |
.289 |
.355 |
.438 |
| Chone Figgins |
2248 |
1982 |
567 |
75 |
27 |
16 |
172 |
224 |
330 |
5 |
16 |
.286 |
.357 |
.375 |
| Carlos Gomez |
415 |
394 |
97 |
16 |
4 |
5 |
33 |
15 |
97 |
4 |
0 |
.246 |
.281 |
.345 |
| David Dejesus |
2300 |
2028 |
598 |
115 |
27 |
40 |
228 |
189 |
279 |
46 |
16 |
.295 |
.366 |
.437 |
| Hanley Ramirez |
1740 |
1534 |
480 |
112 |
21 |
67 |
174 |
175 |
288 |
16 |
7 |
.313 |
.387 |
.544 |
| Grady Sizemore |
2810 |
2430 |
683 |
156 |
31 |
103 |
312 |
317 |
546 |
47 |
10 |
.281 |
.373 |
.498 |
Curtis Granderson |
1933 |
1721 |
486 |
94 |
44 |
63 |
202 |
184 |
421 |
10 |
8 |
.282 |
.354 |
.498 |
| Jose Reyes |
3193 |
2931 |
840 |
143 |
66 |
58 |
281 |
226 |
350 |
5 |
9 |
.286 |
.338 |
.440 |
| Jimmy Rolins |
4354 |
3967 |
1124 |
243 |
73 |
108 |
424 |
328 |
493 |
26 |
21 |
.283 |
.340 |
.463 |
| Akinori Iwamura |
1180 |
1048 |
287 |
48 |
17 |
12 |
77 |
112 |
233 |
5 |
8 |
.274 |
.344 |
.386 |
| Orlando Cabrera |
979 |
896 |
245 |
51 |
7 |
13 |
82 |
63 |
94 |
1 |
11 |
.273 |
.318 |
.390 |
| Skip Schumaker |
556 |
504 |
154 |
21 |
6 |
7 |
43 |
46 |
54 |
2 |
1 |
.306 |
.365 |
.413 |
| David Ecstein |
4104 |
3622 |
1039 |
157 |
16 |
28 |
279 |
268 |
291 |
112 |
30 |
.287 |
.352 |
.362 |
| Dave Roberts |
2888 |
2545 |
675 |
82 |
51 |
21 |
191 |
276 |
336 |
15 |
14 |
.265 |
.339 |
.362 |
| Juan Pierre |
4623 |
4234 |
1266 |
152 |
61 |
12 |
281 |
255 |
255 |
50 |
10 |
.299 |
.345 |
.372 |
| Rafael Furcal |
4839 |
4321 |
1236 |
209 |
52 |
81 |
398 |
439 |
604 |
13 |
29 |
.286 |
.352 |
.415 |
Admittedly Weeks did struggle in 2008 as a leadoff hitter as he finished 15/19 in OBP of those who qualified. A .217/.320/.323 first half line doesn't help, though. (.263/.378/.451 2nd half line) There were other players who had better than normal years in 2008 as well. Comparing Weeks and the other 17 players who qualified for table 2, Weeks has been a much better option the last 3 years as he finished 7/18 in OBP over that span.
A couple of other notes I have are:
- How bad is Ichiro going to be when he can't leg out 50 infield singles a year?
- How is it that just under 2/3 of the team have a consistent leadoff hitter, but Weeks isn't a leadoff hitter?
- I've brought this up in a post on the Brewers message board, but the chances for a Weeks "breakout" this year are very good.