Ned Yost Managing Scared

re: Ned Yost Managing Scared

aegisfc — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:37:48 GMT

BTW, I think pitchers in general have become wusses in the last dozen years or so.

Too many 1 inning, or even 1 out specialists. I long for the days of 4 man rotations with 9 total pitchers on the roster.

Remeber the early 80's Red Sox and Orioles going with 3 man rotations for the last 6 weeks in seasons to get to the playoffs. Most of todays starters would die.

re: Ned Yost Managing Scared

aegisfc — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:36:02 GMT

Gagne and Mota could probably have picked up an inning, though they were needed the next night, and it would have made 4 in a row for each. Riske, maybe an inning.

But then each of them would have pitched 4 of the last 5.

Had he pitched 3 guys each an inning instead it may not have mattered Saturday, but then the options sunday, when Suppan crashed and burned early would have been much more limited, with most of the staff having pitched 4 of 5 nights in the last week.

re: Ned Yost Managing Scared

Ryan Topp — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 07:37:12 GMT

aegisfc,

As I tried to point out, Villanueva is better than your standard long reliever, and I think it is a mistake for Yost yo use him as such. I also don't think the bullpen has been so overused that guys like Stetter, Riske or Gagne couldn't have gone an inning or less.

I never complained about Yost using too many relievers per night last year. He was given a pen with limited multi inning options and that really wasn't his fault. I had other problems that aren't really relevant here.

I understand that Yost doesn't have multiple "long men" at least until CC is a Brewer, and that Yost is limited. In my mind, that actually means he needs to be even more careful in how he chooses to deploy CV. This is a case where there were multiple relievers ready and able to pick up those last two innings and CV's ability to "eat innings" really wasn't needed.

re: Ned Yost Managing Scared

aegisfc — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:03:07 GMT

Simply put, Ned used Villenueva exactly how he should have used a long reliever, to eat up a bunch of innings, instead of eating a bunch of arms.

Last year we all got to listen to everyone complain about how tired the bullpen was from him using 2-3 relievers every night. Now when he doesn't, he's screwed up?

If you look at the previous three games he used 4 and 5 pitchers in each of them. By using Villenueva for 3 1/3 he saved a bunch of other arms that would have been pitching for the 3 or 4th time in 4 days.