Beyond Frustration

I guess with the mammoth salary that I get from Sports Bubbler, I should have plenty of comments to make about the Monday night overtime loss to the Bears. But what is left to say? The Packers lost another close game in frustrating fashion. They're 5-10. Maybe because it's Christmas week, I'm just not up to pointing out all of the blame and why this season has been so exasperating. If you're reading this, you're interested enough in the Packers to know all of that. Why should I rub it in?

But I will say this. The 5-10 record of 2008 is just as real as the 13-3 year of 2007. If Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy were able to ride the wave of an appearance in the NFC Championship game to lucrative contract extensions, they should aslo be held accountable for the franchise-record one year freefall. I'm not suggesting their jobs are in jeopardy because they are not, nor should they be--right now. But 2009 had better be a strong bounce-back season. President Mark Murphy will have to actually have to earn his salary and become more visible next year to let Thompson and McCarthy know that a repeat of this season will not be acceptable.

So what does that mean for right now? It means that coaching staff changes should be made. Tough personnel decisions will have to be made. If a young guy is never going to blossom into a star, the Packers may actually have to dip into their salary cap cash and spend some money in free agency to fill those holes. The good news is that Aaron Rodgers has shown enough to warrant belief in his future.

So Merry Christmas to all...And brace for a 2009 season that will be a pivotal one for the future of the Packers.

Comments

 

TK said:

I think Ted and Mike's Jobs should be in Jepordy.  It is a win now NFL (Apparently not in Thompson's plans).  I think we start at the top and clean house.  The Packers look pathetic!!!  How about Mike Holmgren as the new GM and then he can decide on the coach.  I don't see us going anywhere for quite some time under Ted Thompson!  He is always "building for next year".  We need to win now!  Ted Thompson has ruined the team.  

December 23, 2008 10:37 AM
 

Packer Pete said:

When TT took over, the team was 4-12 and loaded with jayvee talent from the Sherman years.  Two years later, the Pack was 13-3.  I'm satisfied to give TT another couple of years, and I like McCarthy as a head coach and offensive play caller.  McCarthy needs to step up and clean out the defensive and special teams coaches.  He also needs to review the zone blocking scheme and whether we have the correct personnel to implement the running game.  With the exception of 8 games at the end of last year, the running game has been horrid during McCarthy's reign, as evidenced by Grant's 2.6 YPC average last night.

The team is still in solid shape.  If the Dolphins, who were a terrible 1-15 team last year, can rebound to compete for a division title, the 6-10 Packers with a slate of close losses can certainly rebound in 2009 to compete for the NFC crown.  

December 23, 2008 1:05 PM
 

MKB14 said:

TT has been in charge for 4 years.  We are a losing team under TT.  Mark Murphy and TT need to stop hiding and explain to the fans what went wrong nad how it will be fixed.  if next year after 5 years of TT the Packers are still losers the he should be gone.  The coaching needs staff needs to be upgraded.  The special teams are bad there is nothing else to say about our punting and kicking.  TT has over valued the talent on the team,  The talent level does not allow the packers to play 4 quarters of good football.  Aaron has been good at times  and other times not so good.  In the last 3 minutes of the game he just can't get the job done.  TT should have waited until the end of the year to judge Rodgers.  He paid him All Pro money but is not getting all pro results.  The future is not good in green bay unitl changes are made.  We'll see in the off season if TT will make changes or not.

December 23, 2008 3:05 PM
 

dtb925 said:

I think that TT is not an aweful GM as many believe.  I do think that he REALLY needs to make a splash in free agency this offseason.  Signing Albert Haynesworth is a MUST by the PACK this offseason or TT should be let go.  Also, we really need some help on the O-line this offseason.  We need to part with some of the O-line such as Scott Wells....really need a new center.  Also, I think Tauscher and Clifton are done.  A free agent O-line signing looks like a must as well.  With the draft, we definitely need a pass rusher that can start right away....not sure if that is even feasible, but I trust TT to make the right move on this pick.  I also agree that changes need to be made on the D-coordinator and special teams coaches.  Its unforgivable what happened last night on special teams.....thisi was completely a coaching breakdown.  Later.

December 23, 2008 5:25 PM
 

BrewCrewFan said:

I have a hard time agreeing with you PackerPete on McCarthy being a good play caller, his obsession with the fullback dive has hurt us big this year. As far as the offensive goes, its in a good position and lets not forget Aaron Rodgers is a ROOKIE, cut the guy a little slack and before we pass more judgment give him another year in the league. The Defensive most definitely needs some upgrades, and a good start would be a new defensive coordinator and a new special teams coordinator would be essential as well since they cost us big in numerous games this year as well. Signing Haynesworth would be a treat, but honestly do you really think he is going to come to Green Bay? That said we do need to make changes on the D-line and O-line and looks like free agency is the way to go, considering doesn't seem to be a lot of options coming out of the draft, and plus we are too young as is. I do hope we can upgrade our linebackers through the draft, and who wouldn't love to see any of the studs from the USC linebacker core wearing Green and Gold?

December 27, 2008 2:18 AM
 

Todd1021 said:

Fire Sanders and Stock...We have proven over and over again that we cannot put together a defensive scheme to save our lives.  Imagine how bad our defense would have been if the corners and safeties had not had the year they had.  Stock needs to go as he was the primary reason for the punting debacle.

There will be plenty of good assistants fired this year on the coat tails of their head coaches.

December 27, 2008 6:30 PM
 

Hawk Hunter said:

I'm really tired of the Media defending TT, McCarthy and Rogers.  Giving a QB a long term extension after 5 starts is a joke.  Rodgers is a good QB, but not a winner.  He's a backup.  The personel moves made by TT have been a disaster, starting with drafting Rodgers when they needed offensive line help.  I guess I'll never forget McCarthy saying "The train has left the station".  What he forgot to mention is it was going in reverse.  TT and McCarthy should be fired.  We're stuck with Rodgers.

December 28, 2008 11:21 AM
 

Hawk Hunter said:

QB's are (and should be) judged by wins and losses.  The QB rating system is meaningless.  How can you justify a 5-11 QB based on his QB rating.  Rodgers is simply not a winner or a leader.  Poor management, equals poor results.    

December 28, 2008 11:25 AM
 

RodgersFan said:

Do any of you remember Favre's first year as a starter?! Apparently not, because if you look back you will see the Golden Boy was not the hero you have etched in your brain, he sucked worse then Rodgers, so give the kid a break before you throw him to the lions. Its ridicules... Either your just a Brett Favre fan or your a true Packers fan who supports the team and will give our QB a few more starts before burning him at the stakes

December 29, 2008 6:49 AM
 

Mark Twain Packer Fan said:

Yo,  RodgersFan......

You and Big Unit make this out to be a Marc Bulger v. Kurt Warner thing.   For most Packer fans... it is not.   See Units blog this date 12/30/08.   Because he is drinking the MM,TT, and MM media kool-aid, he and other Wisconsin media people LOVE trashing#4 since TT sent him packing to the NYJ.  Then if other call in or bloggers write some disparaging things about Aaron Rodgers, he and people like you want to jump all over them for not being "Packer Fans".  Well, there is nothing that says you cannot root for #4 AND be loyal to the Green and Gold at the same time.

Yes A.R.F., I was at 3 of the 5 Green Bay home games in 1993 and sat in Section 03 (now 103) and saw it up close and personal.  See, I'm old enough to remember that of the 8 regular season home games; 5 were played that year in Green Bay and 3 were played at Milwaukee County Stadium that year.   He led them to a 9-7 record that season and got them into the playoffs where they beat the Lions in the wild card game and then lost to Dallas in the divisional round.  No, I do understand that defense wins championships and in the offseason prior to the 1993 campaign we acquired "the minister of defense".   Certainly, this team has no one of that ilk on defense for this '08 squad and A-Rod had an inferior defense for his first full season as the starter than #4.  

If you want to roll out the stats comparison....... OK:

Farve '93:  19 TD.   24 INT.  QB rating 72.2

A-Rod '08  28 TD  13 INT.  QB rating 93.8

There you have it RodgersFan in black and white.  

Again,  just like Hawk Hunter said above if that is all your hanging your hat on for the QB of the GBP fine... that's your deal.  I know that A-Rod  would tell you the stats are fine, but give him the wins and losses stat every time.

I watched 5 of the 6 Green Package home games from Section 103 this season and DO want him to succeed and not be Brian Griese(followed Elway after he retired in Denver).  He may or may not turn out to be a HOF QB but he can be a very good QB here in GB and lead them back to the playoffs in '09.  See A.R.F., TT wanted to pull the plug on the '08 season as if 2007 was a total fluke.  That there was no way this team (with the same personel in '08 that we had in 2007)could possibly get back to the NFC Championship game again.

I beg to differ w/ TT on that.   That would have meant keeping #4 for one more year AND not trading Corey Williams to the Browns AND having Jon Ryan as OUR punter and not for the SeaTurkeys.

GO PACK GO!

Later......

December 30, 2008 7:50 PM

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