Statis-Stix: Rooting Against Favre

I'm going to keep this direct and to the point. I'm going to tell everyone why they should be rooting against Brett Favre in the NFC Championship Game this Sunday.

It's not because Favre betrayed the Packers by donning the purple. It's not because Favre flipped his middle finger right in the face of his legacy in Green Bay, failed to once acknowledge the emotions and feelings of Packers fans (except by stating that "true Packers fans would understand," whatever that meant) and spent an entire season giving smug, self-gratifying interviews about how he'd proven himself.

Yes, these are all good reasons to hope, as I do, that Favre humiliates himself in the Superdome, ironically the venue of his greatest achievement in football to date. When Kurt Warner was knocked sillier than a Bourbon Street drunk by a Saints defensive lineman last Sunday, I'll admit I began salivating over the thought of that being Favre instead of Warner.

But this goes far beyond these types of bitter, vindictive emotions against Favre. And it goes far beyond the opposite side of The Great Debate, the faction that desperately loves Favre and wants him to stick it to Ted Thompson in a manner more painful than when Frank Costanza took an un-fortuitous fall on Fusilli Jerry.

The bloodlines run much, much deeper than that. It goes back to what Favre once meant to Wisconsin sports fans and what he COULD still mean in the future. And there's a reason I said COULD. See, if Favre wins a Super Bowl with the Vikings, his Green Bay legacy is gone. Caput. Vanished. Nothing. He will mean absolutely nothing to the Packers' organization anymore. Just a blip on the radar.

Michael Hunt wrote a compelling column in the Journal Sentinel recently postulating that if Favre won it all with the Vikings, he would officially sever his ties with the Packers for good. That his legacy and his career would ultimately lie in Minnesota. Even Favre himself seems to suggest this. In a recent column by ESPN's Gene Wojciechowski, Favre admitted that, "now I know when I look back at my career I will remember the 40-year-old year. No doubt."

In other words, Favre will remember his one season with the Vikings, not his 16 with the Packers. And while Hunt theorized that Favre winning the Super Bowl would actually be the only positive outcome of all this, for Favre to put closure on this whole mess by officially severing his ties with the Packers, I couldn't disagree more.

Favre winning the Super Bowl as a Viking would make true what all of us, whether we pledge our allegiance to the franchise or to Favre, deep down inside fears the most: Brett Favre totally rewriting his legacy from being a Packer to being a Viking. And that's exactly what would happen. You think everyone would forever be talking about the '96 Packers being Favre's defining team anymore? Nope. For as long as people still care about football, they'll talk about Favre walking away from the game twice, only to come back at the age of 40 on his high horse and win a franchise's first-ever Super Bowl (and maybe literally save the franchise in the process).

"And, oh yeah," they'll say. "He also played 16 years for the Packers."

For nearly two years now, we've argued, fought and agonized over Brett Lorenzo Favre. We've called each other names, drawn lines, become antagonists and somewhere, I'm sure, people have even physically fought over it. But at the bottom of it all, no Packers fan ever wanted this to happen. Nobody ever wanted to see Favre win a Super Bowl with another team, especially the freaking Minnesota Vikings.

As much as I despise Favre now and love our new quarterback in Aaron Rodgers, I can certainly tell you that I never wanted it to come to this. The most painful part of the Vikings' run hasn't been watching them win, it's been watching the player I once loved the most do it with them. And as much as you may hate Ted Thompson, you can't honestly wish the end result of all this was Favre winning the Super Bowl with the Vikings. If you insist that you did, you're a liar. Or you were never a Packers fan in the first place.

And as far as legacies go, I want to make my final point.

People will relentlessly defend the legacy of athletes who switch teams or repeatedly come out of retirement by saying, "It's their legacy. They can do whatever they want with it." That's nothing more than a gigantic crock of bull. A player's legacy isn't only his, whether he likes it or not. It's the legacy of all the diehard fans who watched him play every game, exalted through the wins, suffered through the losses, shared in both the triumph and the tragedy. For 16 seasons, we did this with Favre. He once represented us, PLAYED for us, more than any athlete in the history of sports, I believe. For some, like myself, we grew up with him, going from a young kid to a college graduate. So even though I hate Favre at the moment, I eventually want to remember and savor those great moments again. I want to savor watching Favre walk across Lambeau Field to cheers once again in a jersey-retirement ceremony, shake hands with Rodgers (who by then I hope will have a title or more under his belt) and make me feel like all is right again. But he's two wins away from erasing all those feelings permanently.

Mostly, I want Brett Favre's legacy to remain OUR legacy. Wisconsin's legacy. But if he wins two more games, he's the Vikings' legacy. Minnesota's legacy. We're left to remember 16 seasons as an afterthought.

If that's not enough for you to root against Favre this Sunday, then I don't know what is.

Comments

 

TheDude said:

Well said Stix! The fact that Favre could become Minnesota's hero instead of going down in history as a legend in Wisconsin is quite painful to contemplate.  

January 20, 2010 10:19 AM
 

gopack5523 said:

Great article Stix.  One point of contention is assuming that when Favre said "I will remember the 40 year old season" that he was going to forget the prior 16.  He won't forget the prior 16, but it will be an afterthought as you so hit the nail on the head in your explanation.  Not only for him, but for packer nation as well.  May he lose this Sunday, please, please lose so that we can put this thing to bed and let the 5 year healing period being.  Unless he comes back again next year.  I'm going to go crawl in a hole now.

January 20, 2010 10:45 AM
 

Loge Bleachers said:

Awesome article Stix.

January 20, 2010 11:03 AM
 

Nick said:

I love it, this is exactly what I've been thinking but haven't really been able to put into words.  If he wins these next two, I feel like he should be put into the HOF as a Viking.  It's not so much that he's playing for another team...the way the situation played out, TT's hands were tied and he clearly did what was best for the Packers.  It's the fact that he organized all this in order to go to the Packers' biggest RIVAL, a team that directly competes with the Pack twice a year.  The MN-GB games couldn't have been any worse for his legacy here and I truly believe that no real Packer fan should want to see him succeed now.

The good news: the Vikes have only beaten one quality opponent on the road, and that was GB.  Gogo Brees!!!

January 20, 2010 11:58 AM
 

Tim said:

This is well thought out.  Aside from the GB/mn games this year, I have somehow been able to separate Favre from the rest of the vikings.  It was good to see him play so well.  Kind of like you always wished you would have had one more chance to do something with someone who died.  When Favre retired from the Packers I was sad to see him go and the last two years was like bonus time.  It dawned on me, though, after the dallas game on Sunday that if the Vikings do win this whole thing that it will be impossible to separate the two for all eternity and I can't stand the thought of them winning it all.  It sucked he beat us twice this year.  It sucked that we didn't get a third chance in the play offs.  It sucks that he plays for a mortal enemy, but it was fun to watch him play so well.  Just don't ruin history by winning it all.  Well put, Stix.  

January 20, 2010 1:00 PM
 

D'Amico's One Good Year said:

Yes. Exactly.

I look at my boxes of Favre junk from when I was younger, and I don't want get rid of them (especially not my Black Brett) but I don't really feel like they mean as much anymore. When Favre left, I told myself that in 10 years, with time and distance, I would think fondly back on his career with the Packers... Now? I think I remember Anthony Dilweg more fondly.

January 20, 2010 1:02 PM
 

Brew Town Boozer said:

That was a great read Stix.  My comments in the Afternoon Delight on 8/18 covered this topic:

"I say he should have to wait 15 years per victory against the packers to have his # retired.  If GB wins twice, then I guess no harm, no foul.  If he wins twice, mark down September 2040 for retirement of jersey."  

Although after playing out like it has, I must say I love Nick's idea of going into HOF as a Viking.  Brilliant.

January 20, 2010 2:12 PM
 

wiseguy said:

Packer fans quit crying in your beer, the packers kicked favre out, McCarthy told everyone the train had left.  So now instead of enjoying this great story that he "could" be doing in green and gold we are forced to watch it in purple.

13-3 and kick a veteran qb to the curb for what? Oh, I will enjoy him watching him break Montanas record in the playoffs, just wish the packers would of done the right thing and let me watch him do this as a packer.........  We got what we asked for when we kicked him out the door......ignorant

January 20, 2010 3:01 PM
 

StallisTim said:

Excellent read as always, stix. I hope Brent decides to revive his alcohol problem on Bourbon St. Saturday night! Geaux Saints!

January 20, 2010 3:17 PM
 

BADPACK said:

Wiseguy the Packers didn't kick him out. He didn't want to come back. He had to wait one year but he got his wish of playing for the Queens.

January 20, 2010 6:42 PM
 

pack fan 91 said:

True, true, true... People make it sound like we kicked him out when he was in his prime, like he was perfect for 16 years and we just shafted him. Wo sat through all of the damn interceptions and that final game against NY? When he was good, he was great, but he also could be very bad.

January 20, 2010 7:45 PM
 

NativePunch said:

If he wins a Super Bowl....fine, but Rodgers needs to get Green Bay back to the Super Bowl and win it to off set #4's career as a Packer. If Aaron Rodgers can get the Packers a couple of Super Bowls, or even just one, and remain a Packer w/out going to another team, it wont matter what #4 did in GB....GB will have redemption, and a QB that the fans and organization can hang there memories on. But Rodgers must get this team to the Super Bowl and win to make Favre and after thought.

January 20, 2010 9:36 PM
 

Nick said:

lol wiseguy, the guy retired, we sent a plane to his house in order to ask him back and he said no.  so let's not get too far ahead of ourselves..

January 21, 2010 8:53 AM
 

PhillyBadger said:

Nick -- TT did not do what was right for the Packers.  If TT, MM BH and MMurphy thought it best in 2008 to jettison Favre, why didn't the team trade him for the best possible consideration.  The deal to the Jets doubtless was not the best deal -- in terms of return value -- the Packers could have received for #4.  If the Packers' collective managerial judgment was that #4 was caput, why wouldn't the team have traded him precisely to the Vikings -- their fierce rival and the team that would have paid a whole lot more than a thrid-round draft pick to obtain #4???

January 21, 2010 1:12 PM
 

FavreFan4Ever said:

We will never truly know what all transpired between Favre, Thompson, McCarthy, etc during that off season.   We have heard both sides.  Both stories are quite different.  What matched up was the fact the Packers offered Favre a ton of money to stay away from training camp and the game.  That in itself tells alot.

Then seeing as he decided he wanted to come back, Favre didnt make demands to be the starter,  he asked to be able to just compete for his job.  Nope, that wasn't gonna be allowed.  So he asked for a release.  Something many, many, many players have asked for in the history of sports, BUT because its Favre, the media makes a huge deal out of it.  Release denied.  

So then the trade happens, Favre is sent to the Jets.  The trade even had a clause specifically for the Vikings.  Go figure.  

Back then, Thompson already feared what actually happened this year.  Favre beat the Pack and their new stud QB not once, but twice, and they never had a chance to meet again in the playoffs because Rodgers and the Pack couldnt get past the first round, and Favre had the bye week, and now a playoff win, putting him right back where he last was in the NFC and in Green Bay......an NFC championship game.

You can point out about how we sat through all those interceptions....but at the same time, how many wins?  How many playoff games?  How many NFC title games?  And how many SB matchups? Interceptions or leading the league in sacks?  Fumbles?  Turnovers are turnovers.

I love the Packers, but I also love the player I grew up with.  Wanting to see him go out on top does not mean I am a liar, or that I was  never a Packer fan or still a Packer fan.  It means I enjoy the game of football and I love watching one of the greatest to play the position of quarterback in the NFL.  

I would have much rathered watching this happen with GB.  Rodgers is good.  He hasnt done anything to be called "great" quite yet.  Lets get a playoff win under the belt first.

As for now?  Go Favre!

January 21, 2010 10:04 PM
 

LtlBoyBlue said:

I am hoping Darren Sharper sets a playoff record for picks. GB and the fans owe nothing to Favre. How much money has he been paid by GB? How many GB locals tolerated his drunk days? Plain and simple favre should be glad the GB fans supported him through his time with GB.

January 22, 2010 3:11 PM
 

william trimble said:

stix-you are the best-putting into words the pain most of us are feeling watching #4 legacy being transformed. My basement has been modeled after the Packers locker room-and i feel like a fool having #4's merchandise.  i just want to put it all in a box and send it down the river.

January 22, 2010 9:49 PM

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