wisblue:

brewhawk:

wisblue:

brewhawk:

Potential for Yosty today, including the inexplicable failure to use Suppan to bunt with a man on second and nobody out.  Isn't that the exact situation you want your pitcher to be in at the plate for that very reason?

I don't think this one is that clear cut. With the infielders coming in on top of the hitter (as they were) and a slow runner on second (Hardy), a successful bunt is going to be tough to pull off. Suppan is not the worst with the bat, so you almost have as much of a chance of moving the runner by having him try to ground one to the right side and if you're really lucky he slips it through the moving infield. As it is, Suppan got his bat on the ball but looped out to right.

Bullcrap.  The sacrifice bunt is BY FAR the more successful means of moving a runner over with a pitcher who bats .000 at the plate (which by definition makes him the worst, since you can't possibly bat any lower), but who bunts well enough to be called upon in a pinch-hit situation to do it.

I would bet you $1000 that if you were able to interview the other 15 NL managers, that at least 12 (80%) would bunt in that situation.

I do love how you cling to your Yost defenses even though the actual result is also so obviously not in your favor.  That's real dedication to your cause.

It is a lot easier to discuss what SHOULD HAVE been done after one of the other options is unsuccessful. That is the definition of second guessing.

I AM NOT DEFENDING YOST (shouting intended)! I am just trying to be fair and to point out that not all of these things are as obvious as you make them out to be. If Suppan bunts right to one of the charging infielders and Hardy is thrown out at third (a real possibility), you have significantly lowered your chances of scoring.

 

So does a popup, groundout, or strikeout, which doesn't move the runner over.  So, you tell me which one is the better play?

If you honestly believe that swinging away with a zero hitter is the better play, you don't know very much about baseball.

Wow what a wild play! Mil2 in the same breath you say Hart is fast then you rip us for over rating his speed. Wait until Rickie actually does something before you crow.

wisblue:

Yost is just trying to imitate his idol LaRussa by getting guys thrown out on the bases. After some of today's adventures he was falling behind.

Cards also missed a sign on a hit and run today.  I thought only Yost's teams do that. 

lock it down torres.

brewhawk:

wisblue:

brewhawk:

wisblue:

brewhawk:

Potential for Yosty today, including the inexplicable failure to use Suppan to bunt with a man on second and nobody out.  Isn't that the exact situation you want your pitcher to be in at the plate for that very reason?

I don't think this one is that clear cut. With the infielders coming in on top of the hitter (as they were) and a slow runner on second (Hardy), a successful bunt is going to be tough to pull off. Suppan is not the worst with the bat, so you almost have as much of a chance of moving the runner by having him try to ground one to the right side and if you're really lucky he slips it through the moving infield. As it is, Suppan got his bat on the ball but looped out to right.

Bullcrap.  The sacrifice bunt is BY FAR the more successful means of moving a runner over with a pitcher who bats .000 at the plate (which by definition makes him the worst, since you can't possibly bat any lower), but who bunts well enough to be called upon in a pinch-hit situation to do it.

I would bet you $1000 that if you were able to interview the other 15 NL managers, that at least 12 (80%) would bunt in that situation.

I do love how you cling to your Yost defenses even though the actual result is also so obviously not in your favor.  That's real dedication to your cause.

It is a lot easier to discuss what SHOULD HAVE been done after one of the other options is unsuccessful. That is the definition of second guessing.

I AM NOT DEFENDING YOST (shouting intended)! I am just trying to be fair and to point out that not all of these things are as obvious as you make them out to be. If Suppan bunts right to one of the charging infielders and Hardy is thrown out at third (a real possibility), you have significantly lowered your chances of scoring.

 

So does a popup, groundout, or strikeout, which doesn't move the runner over.  So, you tell me which one is the better play?

If you honestly believe that swinging away with a zero hitter is the better play, you don't know very much about baseball.

Gotta side with Brewhawk on this one. Just plain stupid not to attempt a bunt on that AB with Suppan.

robertj44:

Wow what a wild play! Mil2 in the same breath you say Hall is fast then you rip us for over rating his speed. Wait until Rickie actually does something before you crow.

I know why the Brewers have batted Hart fifth, but he also seems to have his lost his HR power.

If he doesn't pick it up, I'd rather see him bat 2nd behind Gwynn... how would this lineup be?

Gwynn

Hart

Braun

Fielder

Hall

Weeks

Hardy

Pitcher

Kendall

wisblue:

It is a lot easier to discuss what SHOULD HAVE been done after one of the other options is unsuccessful. That is the definition of second guessing.

100 times out of 100, I would call for the bunt in that very situation.  I have already explained why.  It has nothing to do with second guessing. 

Every time Ned fails, it's not second guessing, just because he failed.

brewer_fan4ever:

robertj44:

Wow what a wild play! Mil2 in the same breath you say Hall is fast then you rip us for over rating his speed. Wait until Rickie actually does something before you crow.

hall is fast, just a little dumb on the bases sometimes.

I meant to say Hart. Sorry Mil2

Great effort by Hart.

OK, that wasn't a catch.  But just keeping it in the park was huge.  Another nice little defensive thing. 

alffan:

I know why the Brewers have batted Hart fifth, but he also seems to have his lost his HR power.

If he doesn't pick it up, I'd rather see him bat 2nd behind Gwynn... how would this lineup be?

 

Gwynn

Hart

Braun

Fielder

Hall

Weeks

Hardy

Pitcher

Kendall

 

Wow another web gem by Corey!!!

But he dropped it by the wall....

Wow....that would have been on Sportscenter for sure! Nice play. Man if he had caught that one...OUR DEFENSE HAS IMPROVED FOLKS! 

That was a great play - but does it mean that much. Run is really meaningless... they need to keep the tying run from reaching the plate.

Good that he has Shouse up.

Good Afternoon Everyone!!

 Could we see a Brewer win today?

Pretty nice freaking play to steal a HR by the Corey Hart over in right.