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Prince Fielder available for trade this summer or during offseason?
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06-15-2008 7:06 PM
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brewerfanx1


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Prince Fielder available for trade this summer or during offseason?
This is just a rumor... Gets you thinking though. This if from mlbtraderumors.com,
The New York Post's Joel Sherman has a host of rumors in his new column.
- Sherman believes the Indians are leaning toward trading C.C. Sabathia. He names the usual suspects (Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs) but also throws the Brewers into the mix based on the opinion of an "AL talent evaluator."
- Speaking of the Brewers, Sherman believes Prince Fielder will be available "almost definitely in the offseason" and perhaps even this summer. Doug Melvin says he's not exploring it but never rules out anything. The presence of Mat Gamel and Matt LaPorta plus Fielder's unwillingness to sign long-term could lead to a deal. Fielder figures to jump up to at least $7-8MM upon reaching arbitration for the first time.
If the Brewers could trade Fielder or even Fielder + a player or two for a top of the rotation starter would you do it? I would only do it if the pitcher had another year or two on his contract. I wouldn't do it for rental though.
What do you guys think?
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Einsteinhood


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Re: Prince Fielder available for trade this summer or during offseason?
I want multiple good pitching prospects for him at this point, at least one at an elite level and another that profiles as no worse than a 3rd starter or a closer, and they need to be within two years of producing at the major league level. That's probably too much, but I don't move him unless someone comes with a big time offer.
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radar_love_316


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Re: Prince Fielder available for trade this summer or during offseason?
I still like the Dodgers as a trading partner. Rosenthal recently reported that they are looking for a slugger, and willing to trade one of their young players. He mentioned Kemp as being available. I would like Ethier or Kemp, Billingsley or Broxton, and LaRoche or Dewitt for Fielder, Hall, and Bush.
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Einsteinhood


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Re: Prince Fielder available for trade this summer or during offseason?
radar_love_316:I still like the Dodgers as a trading partner. Rosenthal recently reported that they are looking for a slugger, and willing to trade one of their young players. He mentioned Kemp as being available. I would like Ethier or Kemp, Billingsley or Broxton, and LaRoche or Dewitt for Fielder, Hall, and Bush.
I wonder what we could get if we threw Tavarez into that offer? Maybe Kershaw?
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radar_love_316


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Re: Prince Fielder available for trade this summer or during offseason?
Einsteinhood: radar_love_316:I still like the Dodgers as a trading partner. Rosenthal recently reported that they are looking for a slugger, and willing to trade one of their young players. He mentioned Kemp as being available. I would like Ethier or Kemp, Billingsley or Broxton, and LaRoche or Dewitt for Fielder, Hall, and Bush.
I wonder what we could get if we threw Tavarez into that offer? Maybe Kershaw?
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brew tex


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Re: Prince Fielder available for trade this summer or during offseason?
It's not a good move to trade Prince yet. We need to get at least another year out of him. Fielder is having a below average year for what he is capable of. I wouldn't be surprised if next year he has numbers similar to last year again. That would raise his value tremendously and the Brewers could net something similar to what the Marlins got for Miguel Cabrera.
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radio silence


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Re: Prince Fielder available for trade this summer or during offseason?
brewerfanx1:
- Speaking of the Brewers, Sherman believes Prince Fielder will be available "almost definitely in the offseason" and perhaps even this summer. Doug Melvin says he's not exploring it but never rules out anything. The presence of Mat Gamel and Matt LaPorta plus Fielder's unwillingness to sign long-term could lead to a deal. Fielder figures to jump up to at least $7-8MM upon reaching arbitration for the first time.
These two reasons do not really suggest immediate availability, or the offseason.
What this tidbit doesn't consider is that $8 million for a man of Prince's production level is a bargain.
BIGGER BATS HIT MORE HOME RUNS! 
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brewerfanx1


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Re: Prince Fielder available for trade this summer or during offseason?
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brewerfanx1:
- Speaking of the Brewers, Sherman believes Prince Fielder will be available "almost definitely in the offseason" and perhaps even this summer. Doug Melvin says he's not exploring it but never rules out anything. The presence of Mat Gamel and Matt LaPorta plus Fielder's unwillingness to sign long-term could lead to a deal. Fielder figures to jump up to at least $7-8MM upon reaching arbitration for the first time.
These two reasons do not really suggest immediate availability, or the offseason.
What this tidbit doesn't consider is that $8 million for a man of Prince's production level is a bargain.
A few things,
1.) I'd trade Prince for a top SP in a heart beat.
2.) I'd rather have the production level of a top of the rotation starter, then of a first base man like Fielder.
3.) The Brewers have Matt LaPorta who could take over, and possibly make up for the production lost by trading Fielder.
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radio silence


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Re: Prince Fielder available for trade this summer or during offseason?
brewerfanx1:
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brewerfanx1:
- Speaking of the Brewers, Sherman believes Prince Fielder will be available "almost definitely in the offseason" and perhaps even this summer. Doug Melvin says he's not exploring it but never rules out anything. The presence of Mat Gamel and Matt LaPorta plus Fielder's unwillingness to sign long-term could lead to a deal. Fielder figures to jump up to at least $7-8MM upon reaching arbitration for the first time.
These two reasons do not really suggest immediate availability, or the offseason.
What this tidbit doesn't consider is that $8 million for a man of Prince's production level is a bargain.
A few things,
1.) I'd trade Prince for a top SP in a heart beat.
2.) I'd rather have the production level of a top of the rotation starter, then of a first base man like Fielder.
3.) The Brewers have Matt LaPorta who could take over, and possibly make up for the production lost by trading Fielder.
Certainly.
So the question is, is Fielder alone worth a top pitcher?
Everyone would probably trade Fielder for a top pitcher if provided the choice, because productive at 1B is easier to replace than top rotation production.
So why should we expect Fielder to net talent that is worth more than he is?
BIGGER BATS HIT MORE HOME RUNS! 
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brewerfanx1


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Re: Prince Fielder available for trade this summer or during offseason?
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brewerfanx1:
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brewerfanx1:
- Speaking of the Brewers, Sherman believes Prince Fielder will be available "almost definitely in the offseason" and perhaps even this summer. Doug Melvin says he's not exploring it but never rules out anything. The presence of Mat Gamel and Matt LaPorta plus Fielder's unwillingness to sign long-term could lead to a deal. Fielder figures to jump up to at least $7-8MM upon reaching arbitration for the first time.
These two reasons do not really suggest immediate availability, or the offseason.
What this tidbit doesn't consider is that $8 million for a man of Prince's production level is a bargain.
A few things,
1.) I'd trade Prince for a top SP in a heart beat.
2.) I'd rather have the production level of a top of the rotation starter, then of a first base man like Fielder.
3.) The Brewers have Matt LaPorta who could take over, and possibly make up for the production lost by trading Fielder.
So why should we expect Fielder to net talent that is worth more than he is?
It depends on who the Pitcher is. If the Brewers go after a young pitcher I could see that happening. Now if the Brewers go after a top established major league pitcher who has show consistancy for a couple years, then the Brewers will probibly have to throw in a player or two. Fielder is a special player who did hit 50 homeruns last year. The Brewers should sell high and see what all they can get.
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Re: Prince Fielder available for trade this summer or during offseason?
brewerfanx1:
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brewerfanx1:
- Speaking of the Brewers, Sherman believes Prince Fielder will be available "almost definitely in the offseason" and perhaps even this summer. Doug Melvin says he's not exploring it but never rules out anything. The presence of Mat Gamel and Matt LaPorta plus Fielder's unwillingness to sign long-term could lead to a deal. Fielder figures to jump up to at least $7-8MM upon reaching arbitration for the first time.
These two reasons do not really suggest immediate availability, or the offseason.
What this tidbit doesn't consider is that $8 million for a man of Prince's production level is a bargain.
A few things,
1.) I'd trade Prince for a top SP in a heart beat.
2.) I'd rather have the production level of a top of the rotation starter, then of a first base man like Fielder.
3.) The Brewers have Matt LaPorta who could take over, and possibly make up for the production lost by trading Fielder.
Comment: #3 They said the same thing about John Jaha and Mark Brouhard and Joey Meyer! Remember them?
Prince Fielder is a big time Superstar type player who is only 23.
Matt LaPorta and Matt Gamel could turn out to be one of these (Jaha, Brouhard, Meyer)
Prince could turn out to be a Hall of Fame type slugger...you build pennants around. But do what you want.
Milwaukee has always been dummies and delusional dimwits when it comes to dealing with stars with Superstar potential. Just trading them away after one bad year or a quirk they did not like.
Especially black players. The other game in Houston Braun gets hit and there is retaliation. Weeks leads the majors in getting hit and there is no pitcher who throws to protect him or Prince!
The game Saturday everyone is blaming Camneron and Hall and Yost for playing them when it was Hart's error loafin after the ball that allowed that run to score. Without it,, Branyan's jack is a game winner. NO ONE MENTIONED HART'S ERROR...
It was all on Cameron and his muff at the wall, and Hall missed the ball when those runs did not matter. Ah, the hypocrisy of it all. Then call them malcontents and then they leave here and win batting titles.
But do what you want...
Brewer fans are fickle, spastic, bias and Impatient as hell when we have not won anything in over a quarter century and then are arrogant enough think any hitter who tears up minor league pitching is as good as gold before they get here.
No wonder we have not won crap here in 30 years...
...You assume too much. I would trade Gamel and LaPorta and pay Prince a proven All Star! Not two minor league phenoms. But that is what losing organizations and fan bases do. Make dumb moves like that...then wonder why they don't win and are amongst the losingest franchises in Pro Sports.
Go ahead, trade him and don't come crying to me! I won't be around...thank goodness! You would probaly be doing him a favor....
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Daubs


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Re: Prince Fielder available for trade this summer or during offseason?
Milwaukee has always been dummies and delusional dimwits when it comes to dealing with stars with Superstar potential. Just trading them away after one bad year or a quirk they did not like.
Especially black players. The other game in Houston Braun gets hit and there is retaliation. Weeks leads the majors in getting hit and there is no pitcher who throws to protect him or Prince!
Apples and oranges.
1. Braun was hit square in the ribs. He doesn't hang over the plate like Weeks does. There was a known "history" between Oswalt and Braun.
2. There was talk that Yost didn't even order McClung to hit Tejada. Big Red might have done that on his own......
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soundsradio


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Re: Prince Fielder available for trade this summer or during offseason?
Mil2BrewCrewRWFan23: brewerfanx1:
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brewerfanx1:
- Speaking of the Brewers, Sherman believes Prince Fielder will be available "almost definitely in the offseason" and perhaps even this summer. Doug Melvin says he's not exploring it but never rules out anything. The presence of Mat Gamel and Matt LaPorta plus Fielder's unwillingness to sign long-term could lead to a deal. Fielder figures to jump up to at least $7-8MM upon reaching arbitration for the first time.
These two reasons do not really suggest immediate availability, or the offseason.
What this tidbit doesn't consider is that $8 million for a man of Prince's production level is a bargain.
A few things,
1.) I'd trade Prince for a top SP in a heart beat.
2.) I'd rather have the production level of a top of the rotation starter, then of a first base man like Fielder.
3.) The Brewers have Matt LaPorta who could take over, and possibly make up for the production lost by trading Fielder.
Comment: #3 They said the same thing about John Jaha and Mark Brouhard and Joey Meyer! Remember them?
Prince Fielder is a big time Superstar type player who is only 23.
Matt LaPorta and Matt Gamel could turn out to be one of these (Jaha, Brouhard, Meyer)
Prince could turn out to be a Hall of Fame type slugger...you build pennants around. But do what you want.
Milwaukee has always been dummies and delusional dimwits when it comes to dealing with stars with Superstar potential. Just trading them away after one bad year or a quirk they did not like.
Especially black players. The other game in Houston Braun gets hit and there is retaliation. Weeks leads the majors in getting hit and there is no pitcher who throws to protect him or Prince!
The game Saturday everyone is blaming Camneron and Hall and Yost for playing them when it was Hart's error loafin after the ball that allowed that run to score. Without it,, Branyan's jack is a game winner. NO ONE MENTIONED HART'S ERROR...
It was all on Cameron and his muff at the wall, and Hall missed the ball when those runs did not matter. Ah, the hypocrisy of it all. Then call them malcontents and then they leave here and win batting titles.
But do what you want...
Brewer fans are fickle, spastic, bias and Impatient as hell when we have not won anything in over a quarter century and then are arrogant enough think any hitter who tears up minor league pitching is as good as gold before they get here.
No wonder we have not won crap here in 30 years...
...You assume too much. I would trade Gamel and LaPorta and pay Prince a proven All Star! Not two minor league phenoms. But that is what losing organizations and fan bases do. Make dumb moves like that...then wonder why they don't win and are amongst the losingest franchises in Pro Sports.
Go ahead, trade him and don't come crying to me! I won't be around...thank goodness! You would probaly be doing him a favor.... C'mon MilRW. You know the team better than that and you know that getting hit is just Rickie's way of getting on base. he usually leads the league or is among the league leaders and it has nothing to do with race and everything to with the fact that Rickie knows how to take a pitch and uses that as a way to become a baserunner. For you to claim that it has anything to do with race is irresponsible and, frankly, typical of you. For someone who claims to be such a fan of the game you seem to have no clue in the difference between throwing AT a player and taking one for the team. Please honor your most recent promise to leave the boards.
"Change is inevitable...except from vending machines."
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brewguru


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Re: Prince Fielder available for trade this summer or during offseason?
Knowing Doug Melvin's history, he won't accept any prospects for Fielder. He will only take someone back who is already in the major leagues. Hopefully, someone who would have the potential to be a #1 in the future.
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