http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2291_Favre_fans_give_love_a_bad_name.html

Pretty much what all the realist Packer fans have been saying since this mess broke. Favre only fans will be pissed by the article.

Ol' Robby's blood will be boiling over this one.........

How can anybody honestly believe that Favre doesn't give the Packers the best chance to win this year? It is nothing short of ridiculous to assume that Rodgers will be able to repeat what Favre did this past season.

Now, I'm as mad about this whole situation as anybody. I think Rodgers has a bright future and I also think Favre has behaved terribly and has damaged his legacy, at least among Packer fans, with this nonsense.

Although it seems to me that the best part of the article is when they say that the Packers do not owe Brett Favre anything. They are absolutely correct. But they don't owe Aaron Rodgers anything either. In my mind, it must come down to which quarterback give the Packers the best chance to win the whole thing this year. I think anyone that says Aaron Rodgers is kidding themselves.

Packman_26:

How can anybody honestly believe that Favre doesn't give the Packers the best chance to win this year? It is nothing short of ridiculous to assume that Rodgers will be able to repeat what Favre did this past season.

Now, I'm as mad about this whole situation as anybody. I think Rodgers has a bright future and I also think Favre has behaved terribly and has damaged his legacy, at least among Packer fans, with this nonsense.

Although it seems to me that the best part of the article is when they say that the Packers do not owe Brett Favre anything. They are absolutely correct. But they don't owe Aaron Rodgers anything either. In my mind, it must come down to which quarterback give the Packers the best chance to win the whole thing this year. I think anyone that says Aaron Rodgers is kidding themselves.

You might be right, assuming Favre prepared himself for the coming season with the same effort and determination as he did last year. For a variety of reasons  (some of his making, some not) he seems to be at a different place right now than he was a year ago. I think you have to adjust your expectations accordingly. 

Packman_26:

How can anybody honestly believe that Favre doesn't give the Packers the best chance to win this year? It is nothing short of ridiculous to assume that Rodgers will be able to repeat what Favre did this past season.

Now, I'm as mad about this whole situation as anybody. I think Rodgers has a bright future and I also think Favre has behaved terribly and has damaged his legacy, at least among Packer fans, with this nonsense.

Although it seems to me that the best part of the article is when they say that the Packers do not owe Brett Favre anything. They are absolutely correct. But they don't owe Aaron Rodgers anything either. In my mind, it must come down to which quarterback give the Packers the best chance to win the whole thing this year. I think anyone that says Aaron Rodgers is kidding themselves.

 Really, and what has Brett Favre done since 1998 to tell you that he is capable of getting over the hump?  Same story, different day.  Still same wrong conclusion.

 Its better to get rid of a player a year early, than a year too late.

 Who is to say that Aaron can't get the job done.  Everyone is under the assumption that Favre is better than Aaron.  Who is to say that Favre has declined to the point that Rodgers couldn't beat him out in camp.  Imagine the horror for the apologists if that were to happen.

Personally I am glad that there might be resolution to the drama fest.

Packman_26:

How can anybody honestly believe that Favre doesn't give the Packers the best chance to win this year? It is nothing short of ridiculous to assume that Rodgers will be able to repeat what Favre did this past season.

Now, I'm as mad about this whole situation as anybody. I think Rodgers has a bright future and I also think Favre has behaved terribly and has damaged his legacy, at least among Packer fans, with this nonsense.

Although it seems to me that the best part of the article is when they say that the Packers do not owe Brett Favre anything. They are absolutely correct. But they don't owe Aaron Rodgers anything either. In my mind, it must come down to which quarterback give the Packers the best chance to win the whole thing this year. I think anyone that says Aaron Rodgers is kidding themselves.

Everything you just said is right on the money. I couldn't agree more. As far as him being ready -the guy ooked in shape and would be here to open camp so I don't see any problem. I think there would have to be some major PR done on both sides and just don't see that happening. The best thing now is to trade him for as much as you can get to a team in the AFC.

The article is dead on. The argument used (and often by Favre defenders on these fora) is that BF gives the Packers the best chance to win in 2008.  Not necessarily so, depending on which BF shows up, the 2005 BF or the 2007 BF.  The odds are that 2007 was the Indian Summer before the inevitable winter of decay: it is far more likely that he will get worse than it is that he will stay at the plateau, and there is almost no chance at all that he will surpass last year's level of play.

Here's to a little common sense!

Packman_26:

How can anybody honestly believe that Favre doesn't give the Packers the best chance to win this year? It is nothing short of ridiculous to assume that Rodgers will be able to repeat what Favre did this past season.

Now, I'm as mad about this whole situation as anybody. I think Rodgers has a bright future and I also think Favre has behaved terribly and has damaged his legacy, at least among Packer fans, with this nonsense.

Although it seems to me that the best part of the article is when they say that the Packers do not owe Brett Favre anything. They are absolutely correct. But they don't owe Aaron Rodgers anything either. In my mind, it must come down to which quarterback give the Packers the best chance to win the whole thing this year. I think anyone that says Aaron Rodgers is kidding themselves.

Favre may very well give the Packers the best chance to win this year. But what has he shown you in his last few playoff games that leads you to believe he can win the whole thing? The Packers want to win the whole thing. It may not happen this year but hopefully in the near future. Rogers is the future.

I don't know if Rogers can take us to the next level. I do know he's not going to get any better sitting on the bench. He needs to start this year to gain the experience needed to get the Pack to the Super Bowl.

It's not just the "Favre fans", but still some of the national media that think that Favre would be able to come back this season and put up the exact same numbers he did in '07 - I seriously doubt that will happen, especially if he would go to another team.  Not saying he can't be productive, but I don't think he will repeat what he did in 2007.

If Favre goves us the best chance to win (which is an assumption - no matter what the apologists say), then why is it such a problem for him to compete for the job in TC? If he is SO superior, it should be a snap for him, right? Why are all you apologists ignoring and avoiding this issue, and why is your idol so afraid of it?

And don't give me that respect crap. This is professional football and a business. Everyone else has to compete for their jobs. Why not His Highness? It's the heighth of arrogance for him to think that he is above that. He has not led them to the SB in TEN YEARS. If that is the ultimate goal, then all should have to compete for their jobs to assure that the best team is on the field. His Highness included. 

I don't think he's afraid at all. He could go out there and "win" the job and have Thompson and McCarthy (who is one entity in case you haven't noticed) sit him on the bench and not give him a chance to play.  That's what he's afraid of. 

   And by the way is that the bench mark, that quarterbacks who haven't led their team to a Super Bowl win in 10 years should have to compete for a their job.  So only the Mannings, Brady and Roethisberger are safe?

azpackfan04:

I don't think he's afraid at all. He could go out there and "win" the job and have Thompson and McCarthy (who is one entity in case you haven't noticed) sit him on the bench and not give him a chance to play.  That's what he's afraid of. 

   And by the way is that the bench mark, that quarterbacks who haven't led their team to a Super Bowl win in 10 years should have to compete for a their job.  So only the Mannings, Brady and Roethisberger are safe?

As far as I'm concerned no player on any team should ever be safe. I'd much rather have every player coming into camp kowing they have to compete each and every year for their job. At least then I'd know they still have the desire to compete.

If the Packer brass says he can compete for his job and he comes in and beats out Rogers and they don't play him then, well then who will look like the @ssholes then?

Pack Attack:

If the Packer brass says he can compete for his job and he comes in and beats out Rogers and they don't play him then, well then who will look like the @ssholes then?

 

Exactly.

The statement above that suggests that they wouldn't play Favre if he were to beat out Rodgers is just pathetic, apologist grasping. Good grief!