robertj44:

lamboo:

robertj44:

Favre fukked up!

Believe me Rob - I take no pleasure in your truthful response.

But I do respect your honesty.

Thanks

The three worse losses in Favre led Packer playoff history. 1999 last second loss to Niners, the phantom fumble by Rice game, Packers were really good could have won it all.

That 2004 game, Ahman Green should have been the MVP that year (2003 regular season), nobody could stop him on third down (Jumbo Package). That team was only 10-6 but were the hottest team in the NFL going into that game. Would have no doubt won the NFC.

And of course last year, those three games turn out to be victories like they should have,  Lord Favre's legacy is set in stone. Those were all kick in the stomach, buzzkiller playoff games.

Three more Lombardi trophies would have looked real nice in the Atrium, huh!

I honestly believe that those three losses haunt Favre so badly that they are the reason he is still playing. He honestly believes he's got one more in him. I did too, until he changed uniforms. Now the best I can hope for is he goes out a winner on a playoff contender and has a good season.

Ahman Green's stats;

2003

Green Bay Packers

16

355

22.2

1,883

5.3

117.7

15

98T

96

27.0

15

5

7

2003

Green Bay Packers

16

50

367

7.3

22.9

27

5

4

0

19

0

The bolded stats for Green rushing, yards, YPG, TD's, First downs that's right 96 first downs.

The bolded stats for Green receiving, catches, yards, TD's, first downs that's right 19 first downs.

The guy had a 115 first downs, 2250 combined rushing and passing yards, and 20 TD's.

The Packers had won 5 in a row and 7 of their last 8, and were steamrolling the Eagles when Sherman pussed out on that drive on 4th and 1 with a healthy unstoppable Green at his disposal. I know I'm preaching to the choir here and I mean all of us. Those types of losses are what seperate the men from the boys as far as loyalty to your team goes (you are all still here). You are all loyal fans, I appreciate your loyalty, and your patience with me. We may disagree on a lot of things fellas...But I think we can all agree on that 4th and 26 play, we were all planning our SB party's in our heads, I know I was.

Robert, that loss--along with SB XXXII--still stings.  The Eagles' D-line was gassed at that point; Shermy had the foot on their throat, and he let it off.  The subsequent meltdown just haunted the franchise.  Donatell became the fall guy, and the franchise lost it's golden opportunity to go the SB.

A couple of things:  that 2003 team would have had a shot at greatness if someone like Jim Bates had been DC.  And, this was so symptomatic of one of Shermy's shortcoming as a HC:  when given the opportunity to hire the best folks on his staff (as Holmgren did), Shermy chose to hire people that wouldn't overshadow him.  Shermy always had to be the brightest guy in the room.  Dontaell gave way to Slowit, I mean Slowik, and the D took a huge step backwards, getting torched for big points in the game against Indy.

That Philly playoff game was the beginning of Shermy's death spiral.

alstriker:

swany11:

robertj44:

lamboo:

robertj44:

So you disagree that the game was already in hand and should have been won on 4th and 26. A simple yes or no would be nice.

 

An EMPHATIC yes - I've posted MANY times that we should've gone for it on 4th & 1.

But all that being said - do YOU agree that the game was ours to win at the end?

DID your hero $HIT THE BED?

Yes or no.

So you ignore my question based on 4th and 26 with a cryptic response involving 4th and 1, yet you want an emphatic yes or no from me. You first...

OK OK. Both of you say YES on the count of three. ONE...TWWWOOOOO....THHHRREEEE!!!

 

 

Simple solution:

Sherman screwed up
Defense screwed up
Favre screwed up

Each party had a chance to ice the Eagles and let the Packers advance to the championship game, but when it was in each of their respective hands in the end, they failed. Favre ultimately ends up as the goat because he made quite possibly the worst decision of his entire career there (the Giants game was a bad pass, not necessarily a bad decision). But before that, as we all know, Sherman tanked when he had the Eagles on their heels and then allegedly (according to Donatell I believe) elected to play it way too safe with the prevent as opposed to blitzing - on FOURTH AND F*CKING 26.

Again, even though I implied in an earlier post that it was Favre who should have made the play (and he should have), as I stated recently here I put this whole thing on Shermy, and so the sequence of events in my mind reads like:

Shermy screwed up.  Defense screwed up.  Shermy screwed up.

As already stated, the Iggles D was gassed, and Shermy had the chance to step on their throats and didn't on the 4th and 1.  On 4th and 26, they simply took advantage of a lapse in judgment on (guess who?) Barnett's part when he didn't take a the proper drop and was basically stuck in no man's land.  In the OT, while I agree that it was just a p#ss-poor pass on Favre's part, as I recall it was first down (as a matter of fact, wasn't it our first play in the OT?), which obviously begs the question: WTF DID YOU EVEN CALL A PASS IN THAT SITUATION IN THE FIRST PLACE???  We had been thoroughly gashing their D on the ground all game (and that is an understatement), and we should have just stuffed the ball down their throat until they showed they could stop it, which I am convinced they couldn't.  Even when they knew the run was coming, they could do nothing to stop it (it was like back in the sixties).  Instead, Shermy got cute, and then Shermy got nailed in the keister. 

As an aside, however, unlike what some people think, the Iggles weren't the only obstacle between us and the SB.  There also stood a pretty darn good Carolina Panther team.  I am not as convinced as others that we could have gone to Carolina and won the next week.  I think the progress and momentum both boded well for the Pack, but the Panthers' run D was as good as any, and their total D was pretty darn good, too.  I think that it would have been asking plenty for us to go on the road a third straight time and win, particularly after a hard-fought and emotional win at Philly.  I think that's part of the reason why the Panthers won the game the following week.

In the end, it was another reason why I disagree with many posters here who say that Shermy's only failings were as a GM.  When the game was on the line, he took on the deer-in-the-headlights look, and the rest was history. Unfortunately, that was not the first time, nor would it be the last time, that would happen. 

Judge Parins:

Again, even though I implied in an earlier post that it was Favre who should have made the play (and he should have), as I stated recently here I put this whole thing on Shermy, and so the sequence of events in my mind reads like:

Shermy screwed up.  Defense screwed up.  Shermy screwed up.

As already stated, the Iggles D was gassed, and Shermy had the chance to step on their throats and didn't on the 4th and 1.  On 4th and 26, they simply took advantage of a lapse in judgment on (guess who?) Barnett's part when he didn't take a the proper drop and was basically stuck in no man's land.  In the OT, while I agree that it was just a p#ss-poor pass on Favre's part, as I recall it was first down (as a matter of fact, wasn't it our first play in the OT?), which obviously begs the question: WTF DID YOU EVEN CALL A PASS IN THAT SITUATION IN THE FIRST PLACE???  We had been thoroughly gashing their D on the ground all game (and that is an understatement), and we should have just stuffed the ball down their throat until they showed they could stop it, which I am convinced they couldn't.  Even when they knew the run was coming, they could do nothing to stop it (it was like back in the sixties).  Instead, Shermy got cute, and then Shermy got nailed in the keister. 

As an aside, however, unlike what some people think, the Iggles weren't the only obstacle between us and the SB.  There also stood a pretty darn good Carolina Panther team.  I am not as convinced as others that we could have gone to Carolina and won the next week.  I think the progress and momentum both boded well for the Pack, but the Panthers' run D was as good as any, and their total D was pretty darn good, too.  I think that it would have been asking plenty for us to go on the road a third straight time and win, particularly after a hard-fought and emotional win at Philly.  I think that's part of the reason why the Panthers won the game the following week.

In the end, it was another reason why I disagree with many posters here who say that Shermy's only failings were as a GM.  When the game was on the line, he took on the deer-in-the-headlights look, and the rest was history. Unfortunately, that was not the first time, nor would it be the last time, that would happen. 

Holy cow!!! A moderately long post by the dimwitted Parins.

What happened to those simple three words: "You're an idiot"?

Judge Parins:

alstriker:

swany11:

robertj44:

lamboo:

robertj44:

So you disagree that the game was already in hand and should have been won on 4th and 26. A simple yes or no would be nice.

 

An EMPHATIC yes - I've posted MANY times that we should've gone for it on 4th & 1.

But all that being said - do YOU agree that the game was ours to win at the end?

DID your hero $HIT THE BED?

Yes or no.

So you ignore my question based on 4th and 26 with a cryptic response involving 4th and 1, yet you want an emphatic yes or no from me. You first...

OK OK. Both of you say YES on the count of three. ONE...TWWWOOOOO....THHHRREEEE!!!

 

 

Simple solution:

Sherman screwed up
Defense screwed up
Favre screwed up

Each party had a chance to ice the Eagles and let the Packers advance to the championship game, but when it was in each of their respective hands in the end, they failed. Favre ultimately ends up as the goat because he made quite possibly the worst decision of his entire career there (the Giants game was a bad pass, not necessarily a bad decision). But before that, as we all know, Sherman tanked when he had the Eagles on their heels and then allegedly (according to Donatell I believe) elected to play it way too safe with the prevent as opposed to blitzing - on FOURTH AND F*CKING 26.

Again, even though I implied in an earlier post that it was Favre who should have made the play (and he should have), as I stated recently here I put this whole thing on Shermy, and so the sequence of events in my mind reads like:

Shermy screwed up.  Defense screwed up.  Shermy screwed up.

As already stated, the Iggles D was gassed, and Shermy had the chance to step on their throats and didn't on the 4th and 1.  On 4th and 26, they simply took advantage of a lapse in judgment on (guess who?) Barnett's part when he didn't take a the proper drop and was basically stuck in no man's land.  In the OT, while I agree that it was just a p#ss-poor pass on Favre's part, as I recall it was first down (as a matter of fact, wasn't it our first play in the OT?), which obviously begs the question: WTF DID YOU EVEN CALL A PASS IN THAT SITUATION IN THE FIRST PLACE???  We had been thoroughly gashing their D on the ground all game (and that is an understatement), and we should have just stuffed the ball down their throat until they showed they could stop it, which I am convinced they couldn't.  Even when they knew the run was coming, they could do nothing to stop it (it was like back in the sixties).  Instead, Shermy got cute, and then Shermy got nailed in the keister. 

As an aside, however, unlike what some people think, the Iggles weren't the only obstacle between us and the SB.  There also stood a pretty darn good Carolina Panther team.  I am not as convinced as others that we could have gone to Carolina and won the next week.  I think the progress and momentum both boded well for the Pack, but the Panthers' run D was as good as any, and their total D was pretty darn good, too.  I think that it would have been asking plenty for us to go on the road a third straight time and win, particularly after a hard-fought and emotional win at Philly.  I think that's part of the reason why the Panthers won the game the following week.

In the end, it was another reason why I disagree with many posters here who say that Shermy's only failings were as a GM.  When the game was on the line, he took on the deer-in-the-headlights look, and the rest was history. Unfortunately, that was not the first time, nor would it be the last time, that would happen. 

Judge the Eagles were a WC entrant, the Pack Division Champs in 2003, that game would have been played at Lambeau I do believe.

robertj44:

Judge Parins:

alstriker:

swany11:

robertj44:

lamboo:

robertj44:

So you disagree that the game was already in hand and should have been won on 4th and 26. A simple yes or no would be nice.

 

An EMPHATIC yes - I've posted MANY times that we should've gone for it on 4th & 1.

But all that being said - do YOU agree that the game was ours to win at the end?

DID your hero $HIT THE BED?

Yes or no.

So you ignore my question based on 4th and 26 with a cryptic response involving 4th and 1, yet you want an emphatic yes or no from me. You first...

OK OK. Both of you say YES on the count of three. ONE...TWWWOOOOO....THHHRREEEE!!!

 

 

Simple solution:

Sherman screwed up
Defense screwed up
Favre screwed up

Each party had a chance to ice the Eagles and let the Packers advance to the championship game, but when it was in each of their respective hands in the end, they failed. Favre ultimately ends up as the goat because he made quite possibly the worst decision of his entire career there (the Giants game was a bad pass, not necessarily a bad decision). But before that, as we all know, Sherman tanked when he had the Eagles on their heels and then allegedly (according to Donatell I believe) elected to play it way too safe with the prevent as opposed to blitzing - on FOURTH AND F*CKING 26.

Again, even though I implied in an earlier post that it was Favre who should have made the play (and he should have), as I stated recently here I put this whole thing on Shermy, and so the sequence of events in my mind reads like:

Shermy screwed up.  Defense screwed up.  Shermy screwed up.

As already stated, the Iggles D was gassed, and Shermy had the chance to step on their throats and didn't on the 4th and 1.  On 4th and 26, they simply took advantage of a lapse in judgment on (guess who?) Barnett's part when he didn't take a the proper drop and was basically stuck in no man's land.  In the OT, while I agree that it was just a p#ss-poor pass on Favre's part, as I recall it was first down (as a matter of fact, wasn't it our first play in the OT?), which obviously begs the question: WTF DID YOU EVEN CALL A PASS IN THAT SITUATION IN THE FIRST PLACE???  We had been thoroughly gashing their D on the ground all game (and that is an understatement), and we should have just stuffed the ball down their throat until they showed they could stop it, which I am convinced they couldn't.  Even when they knew the run was coming, they could do nothing to stop it (it was like back in the sixties).  Instead, Shermy got cute, and then Shermy got nailed in the keister. 

As an aside, however, unlike what some people think, the Iggles weren't the only obstacle between us and the SB.  There also stood a pretty darn good Carolina Panther team.  I am not as convinced as others that we could have gone to Carolina and won the next week.  I think the progress and momentum both boded well for the Pack, but the Panthers' run D was as good as any, and their total D was pretty darn good, too.  I think that it would have been asking plenty for us to go on the road a third straight time and win, particularly after a hard-fought and emotional win at Philly.  I think that's part of the reason why the Panthers won the game the following week.

In the end, it was another reason why I disagree with many posters here who say that Shermy's only failings were as a GM.  When the game was on the line, he took on the deer-in-the-headlights look, and the rest was history. Unfortunately, that was not the first time, nor would it be the last time, that would happen. 

Judge the Eagles were a WC entrant, the Pack Division Champs in 2003, that game would have been played at Lambeau I do believe.

Actually, the Eagles were the No. 1 seed (hence the reason we had to go to Philly in the first place), Carolina was the No.3, and we were the No. 4 seed.  We still would have had to go to Carolina to play them after a hard-fought win in Philly.  While not necessarily reflected in the final score, the fact that the Carolina D was able to go into Philly and basically manhandle them says a lot.

I was wrong on one count, though.  We had actually beaten Seattle at GB (on the Harris int.), so it wouldn't have been a third straight road contest.  Still would have been extremely tough to go in there and win, though.

Judge Parins:

robertj44:

Judge Parins:

alstriker:

swany11:

robertj44:

lamboo:

robertj44:

So you disagree that the game was already in hand and should have been won on 4th and 26. A simple yes or no would be nice.

 

An EMPHATIC yes - I've posted MANY times that we should've gone for it on 4th & 1.

But all that being said - do YOU agree that the game was ours to win at the end?

DID your hero $HIT THE BED?

Yes or no.

So you ignore my question based on 4th and 26 with a cryptic response involving 4th and 1, yet you want an emphatic yes or no from me. You first...

OK OK. Both of you say YES on the count of three. ONE...TWWWOOOOO....THHHRREEEE!!!

 

 

Simple solution:

Sherman screwed up
Defense screwed up
Favre screwed up

Each party had a chance to ice the Eagles and let the Packers advance to the championship game, but when it was in each of their respective hands in the end, they failed. Favre ultimately ends up as the goat because he made quite possibly the worst decision of his entire career there (the Giants game was a bad pass, not necessarily a bad decision). But before that, as we all know, Sherman tanked when he had the Eagles on their heels and then allegedly (according to Donatell I believe) elected to play it way too safe with the prevent as opposed to blitzing - on FOURTH AND F*CKING 26.

Again, even though I implied in an earlier post that it was Favre who should have made the play (and he should have), as I stated recently here I put this whole thing on Shermy, and so the sequence of events in my mind reads like:

Shermy screwed up.  Defense screwed up.  Shermy screwed up.

As already stated, the Iggles D was gassed, and Shermy had the chance to step on their throats and didn't on the 4th and 1.  On 4th and 26, they simply took advantage of a lapse in judgment on (guess who?) Barnett's part when he didn't take a the proper drop and was basically stuck in no man's land.  In the OT, while I agree that it was just a p#ss-poor pass on Favre's part, as I recall it was first down (as a matter of fact, wasn't it our first play in the OT?), which obviously begs the question: WTF DID YOU EVEN CALL A PASS IN THAT SITUATION IN THE FIRST PLACE???  We had been thoroughly gashing their D on the ground all game (and that is an understatement), and we should have just stuffed the ball down their throat until they showed they could stop it, which I am convinced they couldn't.  Even when they knew the run was coming, they could do nothing to stop it (it was like back in the sixties).  Instead, Shermy got cute, and then Shermy got nailed in the keister. 

As an aside, however, unlike what some people think, the Iggles weren't the only obstacle between us and the SB.  There also stood a pretty darn good Carolina Panther team.  I am not as convinced as others that we could have gone to Carolina and won the next week.  I think the progress and momentum both boded well for the Pack, but the Panthers' run D was as good as any, and their total D was pretty darn good, too.  I think that it would have been asking plenty for us to go on the road a third straight time and win, particularly after a hard-fought and emotional win at Philly.  I think that's part of the reason why the Panthers won the game the following week.

In the end, it was another reason why I disagree with many posters here who say that Shermy's only failings were as a GM.  When the game was on the line, he took on the deer-in-the-headlights look, and the rest was history. Unfortunately, that was not the first time, nor would it be the last time, that would happen. 

Judge the Eagles were a WC entrant, the Pack Division Champs in 2003, that game would have been played at Lambeau I do believe.

Actually, the Eagles were the No. 1 seed (hence the reason we had to go to Philly in the first place), Carolina was the No.3, and we were the No. 4 seed.  We still would have had to go to Carolina to play them after a hard-fought win in Philly.  While not necessarily reflected in the final score, the fact that the Carolina D was able to go into Philly and basically manhandle them says a lot.

I was wrong on one count, though.  We had actually beaten Seattle at GB (on the Harris int.), so it wouldn't have been a third straight road contest.  Still would have been extremely tough to go in there and win, though.

I meant to say the Panthers were the WC entrant, whatever doesn't really matter.

tankduke3:

Holy cow!!! A moderately long post by the dimwitted Parins.

And right on target.

As usual, Tank/Ace has no response when faced with facts regarding his lover, PSL. Just his usual dipsh*t offerings. Surprise, surprise......