Six games into the season, it now makes sense to speculate about the true impact of the Favre-Rogers move.

The Jets have a slightly better record (4-2) as opposed to the Packers (3-3). But strength of schedule comes into play. The Jet opponents had a 45.3 % winning record in 2007, while the Packer opponents won 53.6% of their games last year. Result = no impact after adjusting for degree of difficulty.

Farve's rating is 103 while Rogers rating is 98. Favre has 13 TDs, Rogers 11. Rogers has thrown for 1483 to Favre's 1124. Result = Farve is favored ever so slightly.

Packers injuries (including Rogers) far outweigh those of the Jets. Would the Packers be doing better with a better injury picture? I believe so, although that is harder to quantify. Did the injuries cost the Packers at least one game? Probably.

All told, it is difficult to prove one way or another what the Packers gained or lost from the change in quarterbacks (other than a few million in salary cap). That being the case, it has been a wash, at least so far.

Favre has played one less game, let's wait until they both have eight games under their belts before making excuses or proclamations for either one. BTW the teams the Packers beat are a combined 4-12, the Jets 6-6. So your degree of diffuculty calculation is skewed and outdated.

robertj44:

Favre has played one less game, let's wait until they both have eight games under their belts before making excuses or proclamations for either one. BTW the teams the Packers beat are a combined 4-12, the Jets 6-6. So your degree of diffuculty calculation is skewed and outdated.

So far the Pack have played a relatively easy schedule.  Their schedule going forward is really tough.  Look at the Jets schedule going forward its pretty easy.  I will say the Pack is so much more talented than the Jets.

willie key:

robertj44:

Favre has played one less game, let's wait until they both have eight games under their belts before making excuses or proclamations for either one. BTW the teams the Packers beat are a combined 4-12, the Jets 6-6. So your degree of diffuculty calculation is skewed and outdated.

So far the Pack have played a relatively easy schedule.  Their schedule going forward is really tough.  Look at the Jets schedule going forward its pretty easy.  I will say the Pack is so much more talented than the Jets.

Willie you are already making excuse just in case Favre has a better season. I will say it remains to be seen which team is more talented or successful. Which is the same thing you should say. Let the math decide?

robertj44:

willie key:

robertj44:

Favre has played one less game, let's wait until they both have eight games under their belts before making excuses or proclamations for either one. BTW the teams the Packers beat are a combined 4-12, the Jets 6-6. So your degree of diffuculty calculation is skewed and outdated.

So far the Pack have played a relatively easy schedule.  Their schedule going forward is really tough.  Look at the Jets schedule going forward its pretty easy.  I will say the Pack is so much more talented than the Jets.

Willie you are already making excuse just in case Favre has a better season. I will say it remains to be seen which team is more talented or successful. Which is the same thing you should say. Let the math decide?

Yeah I guess it sounded like that, but that was not what I meant.  I'm saying we could beat better teams. 

robertj44:

willie key:

robertj44:

Favre has played one less game, let's wait until they both have eight games under their belts before making excuses or proclamations for either one. BTW the teams the Packers beat are a combined 4-12, the Jets 6-6. So your degree of diffuculty calculation is skewed and outdated.

So far the Pack have played a relatively easy schedule.  Their schedule going forward is really tough.  Look at the Jets schedule going forward its pretty easy.  I will say the Pack is so much more talented than the Jets.

Willie you are already making excuse just in case Favre has a better season. I will say it remains to be seen which team is more talented or successful. Which is the same thing you should say. Let the math decide?

How is saying the Packers are more talented than the Jets an excuse in case favre has a better season? If anything, it's an excuse for Favre if he has a worse season (since he has less talent to work with).

matt stairs:

robertj44:

willie key:

robertj44:

Favre has played one less game, let's wait until they both have eight games under their belts before making excuses or proclamations for either one. BTW the teams the Packers beat are a combined 4-12, the Jets 6-6. So your degree of diffuculty calculation is skewed and outdated.

So far the Pack have played a relatively easy schedule.  Their schedule going forward is really tough.  Look at the Jets schedule going forward its pretty easy.  I will say the Pack is so much more talented than the Jets.

Willie you are already making excuse just in case Favre has a better season. I will say it remains to be seen which team is more talented or successful. Which is the same thing you should say. Let the math decide?

 

How is saying the Packers are more talented than the Jets an excuse in case favre has a better season? If anything, it's an excuse for Favre if he has a worse season (since he has less talent to work with).

What?

The Jets clearly are out performing us with less overall talent. The reason is the veteran leadership of Brett Favre. If Brett Favre is on current Packer team with the same injuries and all and our record is 5-1 and tied for best record in the NFL. Now as Packers shedule gets harder the gap most likely will open even more. Oh well Ted Thompson is the best GM in football right? Mike McCarty is the best coach in the NFL right? Mark Murphy is best Team President in the NFL right? No worries if we tank. Always next year.... And the year after that..... And the year after that. You get the picture.

ace_maverick:

The Jets clearly are out performing us with less overall talent. The reason is the veteran leadership of Brett Favre. If Brett Favre is on current Packer team with the same injuries and all and our record is 5-1 and tied for best record in the NFL. Now as Packers shedule gets harder the gap most likely will open even more. Oh well Ted Thompson is the best GM in football right? Mike McCarty is the best coach in the NFL right? Mark Murphy is best Team President in the NFL right? No worries if we tank. Always next year.... And the year after that..... And the year after that. You get the picture.

Blow it out your a$$ dude, you and tank all must be living together at one of your parents houses, sitting around playing with your Brett dolls... 

Maybe Brett is more motivated because the team kicked him to the curb and now he has something more to play for...   The Jets don't have the same pressure to win as the Packers, they were so bad last year that anything is an improvement, but the Packers could go 11-5 and people say they went backwards..  right??  It's also like when you go to a new job, a fresh start...   So the blah blah Packers would be 8-0 right now (even though they only played 6 games) is way old...  If Brett was so good maybe they should give him a nobel prize or something right??

This comparison stuff is really dumb either way..    Root for your team, and quit wishing you had something you won't have....   Brett is gone, move on, that is what he did...   He didn't want the coaches taking away his calls and he didn't want his old freedon to run around and chuck the ball up all the time.  When Mike asked him to be less of a gunslinger, he was like, I am Brett Favre, who are you??  SO Brett got what he wanted, he can gunsling all he wants there and he has control, which is what he wanted all along..    he would probably say something dumb like this if you asked him  "I haven't had fun like this in years, playing here is easy (like under the Sherman years when I got to chuck and duck)" 

ace_maverick:

The Jets clearly are out performing us with less overall talent. The reason is the veteran leadership of Brett Favre. If Brett Favre is on current Packer team with the same injuries and all and our record is 5-1 and tied for best record in the NFL. Now as Packers shedule gets harder the gap most likely will open even more. Oh well Ted Thompson is the best GM in football right? Mike McCarty is the best coach in the NFL right? Mark Murphy is best Team President in the NFL right? No worries if we tank. Always next year.... And the year after that..... And the year after that. You get the picture.

Objectively speaking, the Jets and Packers are about in the same ballpark to this point.  You have no "clear" evidence of out-performing.  Brett Favre probably is the main difference in where the JETS stand right now as they might have 2 less wins than if Clemens or Pennington is QB.  I don't see how you can determine that we are 5-1 with Favre on this team.  Please CLARIFY.  Rodgers has done well.  To say we get 2 more wins requires a hypothesis on the 2 games you think we win.  (and probably how we keep the three wins we did get.)

robertj44:

matt stairs:

robertj44:

willie key:

robertj44:

Favre has played one less game, let's wait until they both have eight games under their belts before making excuses or proclamations for either one. BTW the teams the Packers beat are a combined 4-12, the Jets 6-6. So your degree of diffuculty calculation is skewed and outdated.

So far the Pack have played a relatively easy schedule.  Their schedule going forward is really tough.  Look at the Jets schedule going forward its pretty easy.  I will say the Pack is so much more talented than the Jets.

Willie you are already making excuse just in case Favre has a better season. I will say it remains to be seen which team is more talented or successful. Which is the same thing you should say. Let the math decide?

 

How is saying the Packers are more talented than the Jets an excuse in case favre has a better season? If anything, it's an excuse for Favre if he has a worse season (since he has less talent to work with).

What?

Saying the Packers have more talent than the Jets would be a reason Rodgers should be better right? More talent at receiver, more yards after catch. better OL, more time to throw. So saying the Packers have more talent isn't making an excuse in case Favre has a better season, it's saying Rodgers should have a better season. I just don't see how playing with less talent is an excuse in case favre has a better season. Enlighten me.

puddyellow:

ace_maverick:

The Jets clearly are out performing us with less overall talent. The reason is the veteran leadership of Brett Favre. If Brett Favre is on current Packer team with the same injuries and all and our record is 5-1 and tied for best record in the NFL. Now as Packers shedule gets harder the gap most likely will open even more. Oh well Ted Thompson is the best GM in football right? Mike McCarty is the best coach in the NFL right? Mark Murphy is best Team President in the NFL right? No worries if we tank. Always next year.... And the year after that..... And the year after that. You get the picture.

Objectively speaking, the Jets and Packers are about in the same ballpark to this point.  You have no "clear" evidence of out-performing.  Brett Favre probably is the main difference in where the JETS stand right now as they might have 2 less wins than if Clemens or Pennington is QB.  I don't see how you can determine that we are 5-1 with Favre on this team.  Please CLARIFY.  Rodgers has done well.  To say we get 2 more wins requires a hypothesis on the 2 games you think we win.  (and probably how we keep the three wins we did get.)

I would agree with Pudd here in that I think the comparison is pretty close.  Favre had the great game against the Cards, and Rodgers had been pretty steady throughout the first six games.

Ace, I don't understand how you can just say that the Pack would be 5-1 with Favre.  There is no way to quantify that, but at least you could give your opinion on why you think Favre would make us 5-1.  Unless Brett can play defense, I don't see how he makes this team better.

puddyellow:

Objectively speaking, the Jets and Packers are about in the same ballpark to this point.  You have no "clear" evidence of out-performing.  Brett Favre probably is the main difference in where the JETS stand right now as they might have 2 less wins than if Clemens or Pennington is QB.  I don't see how you can determine that we are 5-1 with Favre on this team.  Please CLARIFY.  Rodgers has done well.  To say we get 2 more wins requires a hypothesis on the 2 games you think we win.  (and probably how we keep the three wins we did get.)

I agree with this point of view.  Brett has done for the Jets what they hired him to do, and A-Rod has been quite good for the Packers so far.  As Favre gets to know that offense better, I think he'll be a real factor in their play-off run.  And...as Rodgers gets more game experience, I'd expect him to get better and better for the Packers, too.  Both teams are benefitting from quality QB play up to this point.

mjenzie:

puddyellow:

ace_maverick:

The Jets clearly are out performing us with less overall talent. The reason is the veteran leadership of Brett Favre. If Brett Favre is on current Packer team with the same injuries and all and our record is 5-1 and tied for best record in the NFL. Now as Packers shedule gets harder the gap most likely will open even more. Oh well Ted Thompson is the best GM in football right? Mike McCarty is the best coach in the NFL right? Mark Murphy is best Team President in the NFL right? No worries if we tank. Always next year.... And the year after that..... And the year after that. You get the picture.

Objectively speaking, the Jets and Packers are about in the same ballpark to this point.  You have no "clear" evidence of out-performing.  Brett Favre probably is the main difference in where the JETS stand right now as they might have 2 less wins than if Clemens or Pennington is QB.  I don't see how you can determine that we are 5-1 with Favre on this team.  Please CLARIFY.  Rodgers has done well.  To say we get 2 more wins requires a hypothesis on the 2 games you think we win.  (and probably how we keep the three wins we did get.)

 

 

I would agree with Pudd here in that I think the comparison is pretty close.  Favre had the great game against the Cards, and Rodgers had been pretty steady throughout the first six games.

 

Ace, I don't understand how you can just say that the Pack would be 5-1 with Favre.  There is no way to quantify that, but at least you could give your opinion on why you think Favre would make us 5-1.  Unless Brett can play defense, I don't see how he makes this team better.

Bingo!

Brett has been very good so far but no way he gets 2 more wins in GB.  

ace_maverick:

The Jets clearly are out performing us with less overall talent.

Kind of flies in the face of TT hasn't put any talent on the field doesn't it? Didn't the Jets go break the bank for a ton of high priced FA's?  Shouldn't they then be considered to have MORE talent than the Packers?  I mean after all spending money=more talent=more wins, doesn't it?

Ace you truly are nothing more than a crack head.  I swear your posts get dumberer and dumberer.