Crew @ Cubs Game 2 Gamethread: July 3

Last post 07-04-2009 6:45 PM by TheDude. 742 replies.
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  • 07-04-2009 1:30 AM In reply to

    Re: Crew @ Cubs Game 2 Gamethread: July 3

    brewhawk:

    That F-cking As-hole is 6th in All-Star voting for outfielders right now.  6th!  Unbelieveable how overrated that f-cking albatross is.

     

    How is he an ***?

    Or an albatross?

    BIGGER BATS HIT MORE HOME RUNS!



  • 07-04-2009 1:31 AM In reply to

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    stix:

    Radio, I'm not going to go as far as Brewhawk, but it's hard to ignore that Cameron has really sucked the last month-plus.

    0-5 today with 4 Ks, abysmal numbers with RISP.

    I understand your points, but you can't blame Brewers fans for being a little agitated with him at the moment. Not only did he fail to get a bunt down, he popped up to first on a terrible pitch with the bases loaded and one out today.

    He has been a pretty big rally-killer for well over a month now. I don't think he's a bad center fielder, but I can't say I'm a big Mike Cameron fan at the moment.

     

    I'd expect Brewers fans to know what a slump is, and to deal with it.

     

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  • 07-04-2009 1:56 AM In reply to

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    alffan:

    MLB needs to investigate the dirty umps. There are a handful and someone needs to launch an investigation.

     

    Baseball is a man's game. On the other hand, the NBA is just a bunch of Michael Redd's, shoot shoot, miss miss, cha ching, cha ching.

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  • 07-04-2009 2:01 AM In reply to

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    brewhawk:

    It's not even like his overall numbers are good, either.  They're mediocre at best.  What *** good is 12 HR if the guy has 34 total RBI.

    This guy is the anticlutch.  A rally killer of the highest magnitude.

    I don't know how some of you can still turn a blind eye to how badly this overpaid POS is hurting the team right now.

    Wow, what a meaningless pile of blather.
    Proud member of the Clueless Moron HOF.

  • 07-04-2009 6:22 AM In reply to

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    UWWhitewaterGrad:

    The strikezone doesn't change when a batter bends over.  That pitch was belt-high.  That was a strike.  Again, the interpretation of the zone is what is killing this aspect of the game.

    It was a strike, but the strike zone does change based on stance:

    The Strike Zone shall be determined from the batter's stance as the batter is prepared to swing at a pitched ball.

    The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane. -- Mark Twain
  • 07-04-2009 7:32 AM In reply to

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    sidney lanier:

    UWWhitewaterGrad:

    The strikezone doesn't change when a batter bends over.  That pitch was belt-high.  That was a strike.  Again, the interpretation of the zone is what is killing this aspect of the game.

    It was a strike, but the strike zone does change based on stance:

    The Strike Zone shall be determined from the batter's stance as the batter is prepared to swing at a pitched ball.

    If that's the case, I'm shocked we don't see more Rickey Henderson-type stances....or a batter who squats so his knees are above his shoulders (man, that'd be uncomfortable, though....)

    That still doesn't change the fact that Fox was much more upright when DiFelice was starting to throw the pitch and hunched over more when the ball crossed the plate.

  • 07-04-2009 8:16 AM In reply to

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    Daubs:

    sidney lanier:

    UWWhitewaterGrad:

    The strikezone doesn't change when a batter bends over.  That pitch was belt-high.  That was a strike.  Again, the interpretation of the zone is what is killing this aspect of the game.

    It was a strike, but the strike zone does change based on stance:

    The Strike Zone shall be determined from the batter's stance as the batter is prepared to swing at a pitched ball.

    If that's the case, I'm shocked we don't see more Rickey Henderson-type stances....or a batter who squats so his knees are above his shoulders (man, that'd be uncomfortable, though....)

    That still doesn't change the fact that Fox was much more upright when DiFelice was starting to throw the pitch and hunched over more when the ball crossed the plate.

    You're right. The zone is defined by the hitter's stance when he is prepared to hit, not when he goes into Eddie Gaedel mode trying to take ball four. Just more corroboration, not that any was needed, about what this pitch should have been called.

    This business somebody else pointed out about Jake Fox going to the tape room and confirming his eagle eye at the plate just shows that he's absorbed the Cubs' our-schit-doesn't-smell-as-bad-as-Wrigley-Field attitude. The guy locks up and then tries to spin it that he's got Ted Williams' eyes.

    I mentioned earlier in this thread that I remember him taking a called third strike to end a Cubs' loss a few days ago. I thought it was against the Giants, but I checked, and it was in Atlanta on June 22nd. I remember watching the end of that game and texting a friend (a Giants fan, which is why I got confused) about the sad state of baseball when a guy can take a belt-high fastball that splits the plate with two outs in the ninth down two runs. So he freezes up again, and this time it works out for him, thanks to an accommodating umpire.

    That's redemption, Chicago Cubs style.

     

    The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane. -- Mark Twain
  • 07-04-2009 6:45 PM In reply to

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    shipitdear:

    UWWhitewaterGrad:

    The strikezone doesn't change when a batter bends over.  That pitch was belt-high.  That was a strike.  Again, the interpretation of the zone is what is killing this aspect of the game.

     

    But it can confuse an umpire when a batter does that .  Combine this w/ Kendall catching the ball above his own eyes and it makes it a tougher call.  These things factor in as to why I think that pitch is going to be called a ball more often than folks on this board want to admit.  I agree w/ Radio- if they have the technology to take the guessing out of the ball and strike calls they should use it.  As long as you have human beings making the calls things that shouldn't factor in will.  Of course for the millionth time it shouldn't have come down to the human element deciding a borderline pitch.  The Brewers had the Cubs on the ropes over and over and couldn't knock them out.
    As long as those humans get paid a lot to be umpires for professional baseball, they shouldn't interperate rules but follow them. 

    And yes, the Brewers screwed the pooch multiple times themselves, but I'm more focused on the strike zone in general.  After the initial shock of the call, I could give two sh*ts about that specific pitch.  However, nothing will change the umpire situation.

    Cub fans are the most immature and annoying fans... EVER.

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