Here's some fun facts I've found.

Illinois has a NC game against Missouri.

Illinois has a NC game against Cincinnati.

Indiana has a NC game against Virginia.

Iowa has a NC game against Arizona.

Iowa has a NC game against Iowa St.

Michigan has a NC game against Notre Lame.

Michigan State has a NC game against Notre Lame.

Minnesota has a NC game against Air Force.

Minnesota has a NC game against Cal.

Ohio State has a NC game against USC.

Purdue has a NC game against Oregon.

Bucky has a NC game against Wofford.

CollegeFootballGuru:

Here's some fun facts I've found.

Illinois has a NC game against Missouri.

Illinois has a NC game against Cincinnati.

Indiana has a NC game against Virginia.

Iowa has a NC game against Arizona.

Iowa has a NC game against Iowa St.

Michigan has a NC game against Notre Lame.

Michigan State has a NC game against Notre Lame.

Minnesota has a NC game against Air Force.

Minnesota has a NC game against Cal.

Ohio State has a NC game against USC.

Purdue has a NC game against Oregon.

Bucky has a NC game against Wofford.

you pick out the strongest NC team of the other BT Teams but pick out UW's weakest NC opponent.  That is hardly a unbiased comparison.  BTW Iowa plays Northern Iowa and Minnestoa plays North Dakota State for example.  I'm not sure what else to say.

runningwithscissors:

CollegeFootballGuru:

Here's some fun facts I've found.

Illinois has a NC game against Missouri.

Illinois has a NC game against Cincinnati.

Indiana has a NC game against Virginia.

Iowa has a NC game against Arizona.

Iowa has a NC game against Iowa St.

Michigan has a NC game against Notre Lame.

Michigan State has a NC game against Notre Lame.

Minnesota has a NC game against Air Force.

Minnesota has a NC game against Cal.

Ohio State has a NC game against USC.

Purdue has a NC game against Oregon.

Bucky has a NC game against Wofford.

you pick out the strongest NC team of the other BT Teams but pick out UW's weakest NC opponent.  That is hardly a unbiased comparison.  BTW Iowa plays Northern Iowa and Minnestoa plays North Dakota State for example.  I'm not sure what else to say.

Wisconsin has a NC game against Hawaii.  Does that make it sound any better?  Nope.

CollegeFootballGuru:

runningwithscissors:

CollegeFootballGuru:

Here's some fun facts I've found.

Illinois has a NC game against Missouri.

Illinois has a NC game against Cincinnati.

Indiana has a NC game against Virginia.

Iowa has a NC game against Arizona.

Iowa has a NC game against Iowa St.

Michigan has a NC game against Notre Lame.

Michigan State has a NC game against Notre Lame.

Minnesota has a NC game against Air Force.

Minnesota has a NC game against Cal.

Ohio State has a NC game against USC.

Purdue has a NC game against Oregon.

Bucky has a NC game against Wofford.

you pick out the strongest NC team of the other BT Teams but pick out UW's weakest NC opponent.  That is hardly a unbiased comparison.  BTW Iowa plays Northern Iowa and Minnestoa plays North Dakota State for example.  I'm not sure what else to say.

 

Wisconsin has a NC game against Hawaii.  Does that make it sound any better?  Nope.

Hawaii would be favored at home over 5 of the teams you listed.

runningwithscissors:

That is hardly a unbiased comparison.

Gumbo boy doesn't know what that word means.

I agree with Guru on Wisconsin's schedule.  Always have.

I believe that Wisconsin doesn't have the luxury of playing cream puffs.  Wisconsin should have started a home and away with Texas.  Turned it into a football basketball thing.  It could have been great.  2 great states.  2 great universities.  North / South.  It would have been great.  We stayed in the bar and didn't amble out into the parking lot.

MN is going to play USC.  That should be our game.  Think of our schedule if we went non-conference against Texas, USC and a big SEC school - FL.  Would we win every game.  No, but we would get better every year.  They probably would beat us the first go round on their turf.  I think we would start getting them on ours.  it would also prepare us for MI, who will be back in the next year or two, Ohio State and the rest better than  the little sisters of the poor we play.  Plus all those games would be national exposure.  It would be great for Wisconsin.

Our hockey team mans up against anybody.  Our basketball team mans up against anybody.  Our football team should as well.

It's just my opinion and apparently Guru's.  I know many disagree.

kegman:

I believe that Wisconsin doesn't have the luxury of playing cream puffs.

Why doesn't Wisconsin have the luxury but the rest of the country (except USC and Va Tech) does?

kegman:

Wisconsin should have started a home and away with Texas.  Turned it into a football basketball thing.  It could have been great.  2 great states.  2 great universities.  North / South.  It would have been great.  We stayed in the bar and didn't amble out into the parking lot.

Texas didn't want to come to Madison.  Look it up.  That's why it didn't happen.

kegman:

MN is going to play USC.  That should be our game. 

Why?  The UW program is so far ahead of Minny's that it's insulting to Bucky to compare the two.

kegman:

Think of our schedule if we went non-conference against Texas, USC and a big SEC school - FL.  Would we win every game.  No, but we would get better every year.  They probably would beat us the first go round on their turf.  I think we would start getting them on ours.  it would also prepare us for MI, who will be back in the next year or two, Ohio State and the rest better than  the little sisters of the poor we play.  Plus all those games would be national exposure.  It would be great for Wisconsin.

How would the team improve by playing Texas, USC & Florida?  That makes no sense to me.  I agree that many fans would like it (including me) but they'd be the only winners.  Lets face it--UW likely loses all of those games (bye bye BCS in September! Think that'll please the masses?) and you don't get a box office gain because Bucky sells out no matter who you play.  BTW, good luck getting Florida to agree to play in Madison.  We know Texas won't do it.  (Can you blame either of them?  What do they have to gain by playing UW on the road?)  I'll concede USC probably would though every Badger fan (and player, coach, administrator, etc) would rather see UW play SC in January in Pasadena than Madison in September.  That hope (which Alvarez proved is realistic) will prevent Bucky from scheduling such a game.

kegman:

Our hockey team mans up against anybody.  Our basketball team mans up against anybody.  Our football team should as well.

That is such a poor analogy.  Basketball and hockey are different sports that have actual tournaments that determine their champion.  As a result, scheduling in those sports actually matters.  Football is waaaaaaaaaay different.  Get the NCAA to institute an actual tournament instead of the farce that is the BCS and you will see football scheduling improve by leaps and bounds.

Why doesn't UW have the luxury?  UW doesn't have the perceived credentials that USC or Va Tech and other schools have.  I agree most teams play cream puffs.  But, the voters for all the polls overlook it for the other schools.  I don't think they do for WI.

If TX wouldn't come to Madison, I stand corrected.  Find somebody else.

UW is ahead of MN.  However, by playing better schools, MN may turn that around.

I agree UW probably loses the first round against the big boys.  But by playing the big boys UW will get better and UW will take them in a year or two.

I agree a tournament would improve scheduling.  I don't think it's a poor analogy to compare football to basketball and hockey. UW gets better in both sports by playing the best talent.

We just have a different scheduling philosophy.  Not a different team.

Sigh. The usual ignorance regarding scheduling.

Something like 100 of 112 D-1 schools played a 1-AA opponent last season. A handful of teams played 2.

To point out (yet again, because we either keep getting new people or have some really thick-headed old ones) that scheduling college football games is a major task and there are literally hundreds of things that need to be worked out for the game to happen. No... you can't just call Notre Dame and tell them to show up.

Kegman and his minions just don't get it.

Let's spell it out once more:

While the non-conference schedule may have an impact on BCS seeding, in the end, if you beat 4 patsies and go on to win the conference, you'll get a BCS bowl, simple as that. If you beat 4 tough non-conference opponents and win the league, you'll get a BCS bowl. How is the result much different? The answer of course is the opportunity to play in a NC game. I think it's kind of pie-in-the-sky to plan your annual schedule around this one highly improbably event. You place at greater risk the revenue and prestige that can come with playing in a BCS game more often or at the very least, getting a New Year's Day game as opposed to a Dec 27th game. I predict the only way the Badgers ever see a NC game is if they go undefeated in the Big-10, in which case the 4 non-conf games won't factor in very much, and unless you play some completely ridiculous non-conf schedule you'll be fine.

 I wonder if an unbeaten Wisconsin would get in over a one loss SEC team.

jimmythegreek:

CollegeFootballGuru:

runningwithscissors:

CollegeFootballGuru:

Here's some fun facts I've found.

Illinois has a NC game against Missouri.

Illinois has a NC game against Cincinnati.

Indiana has a NC game against Virginia.

Iowa has a NC game against Arizona.

Iowa has a NC game against Iowa St.

Michigan has a NC game against Notre Lame.

Michigan State has a NC game against Notre Lame.

Minnesota has a NC game against Air Force.

Minnesota has a NC game against Cal.

Ohio State has a NC game against USC.

Purdue has a NC game against Oregon.

Bucky has a NC game against Wofford.

you pick out the strongest NC team of the other BT Teams but pick out UW's weakest NC opponent.  That is hardly a unbiased comparison.  BTW Iowa plays Northern Iowa and Minnestoa plays North Dakota State for example.  I'm not sure what else to say.

 

Wisconsin has a NC game against Hawaii.  Does that make it sound any better?  Nope.

Hawaii would be favored at home over 5 of the teams you listed.

Greek, after Air Force, Virginia and IowaSt, who else would Hawaii be favored over?  I think Cincy and Mizzou would get the nod as road favs.  Not trying to start an argument as I know how these scheduling threads go, just curious.

kegman:

Why doesn't UW have the luxury?  UW doesn't have the perceived credentials that USC or Va Tech and other schools have.

Which other schools?  Again, everyone but SC and Va Tech creampuff their schedule.  So you can say that UW is different than the Trojans and Hokies, but they're basically the same as the other 100+ I-A teams out there.

kegman:

I agree most teams play cream puffs.  But, the voters for all the polls overlook it for the other schools.  I don't think they do for WI.

Kegman, I think you're a pretty smart guy.  Do you really believe that the voters for all the polls overlook scheduling for the other schools except UW?  C'mon.  That's a totally outrageous statement.

kegman:

If TX wouldn't come to Madison, I stand corrected.  Find somebody else.

Ok.  Who?  You're simply not going to get a bigtime program to come play at Camp Randall, especially one in the south.  They have nothing to gain by playing here.

kegman:

UW is ahead of MN.  However, by playing better schools, MN may turn that around.

How exactly would that happen?  It's one game.  I think you're highly overrating the importance of one game.

kegman:

I agree UW probably loses the first round against the big boys.  But by playing the big boys UW will get better and UW will take them in a year or two.

Again, how exactly would UW get better?  The assumption that UW would knock off the big boys in a year or two is precisely why the big boys will absolutely not play in Madison.

kegman:

I agree a tournament would improve scheduling.  I don't think it's a poor analogy to compare football to basketball and hockey. UW gets better in both sports by playing the best talent.

Why is it a poor analogy?  SOS matters in basketball and hockey.  It means jack *** in football.

thebaumer:

While the non-conference schedule may have an impact on BCS seeding, in the end, if you beat 4 patsies and go on to win the conference, you'll get a BCS bowl, simple as that. If you beat 4 tough non-conference opponents and win the league, you'll get a BCS bowl. How is the result much different? The answer of course is the opportunity to play in a NC game. I think it's kind of pie-in-the-sky to plan your annual schedule around this one highly improbably event. You place at greater risk the revenue and prestige that can come with playing in a BCS game more often or at the very least, getting a New Year's Day game as opposed to a Dec 27th game. I predict the only way the Badgers ever see a NC game is if they go undefeated in the Big-10, in which case the 4 non-conf games won't factor in very much, and unless you play some completely ridiculous non-conf schedule you'll be fine.

Amen.

thebiga:

thebaumer:

While the non-conference schedule may have an impact on BCS seeding, in the end, if you beat 4 patsies and go on to win the conference, you'll get a BCS bowl, simple as that. If you beat 4 tough non-conference opponents and win the league, you'll get a BCS bowl. How is the result much different? The answer of course is the opportunity to play in a NC game. I think it's kind of pie-in-the-sky to plan your annual schedule around this one highly improbably event. You place at greater risk the revenue and prestige that can come with playing in a BCS game more often or at the very least, getting a New Year's Day game as opposed to a Dec 27th game. I predict the only way the Badgers ever see a NC game is if they go undefeated in the Big-10, in which case the 4 non-conf games won't factor in very much, and unless you play some completely ridiculous non-conf schedule you'll be fine.

Amen.

while i don't disagree with a lot posted here, with the BT the 4th or 5th best conference in some people's eyes, the none conference schedule (overall SOS) could have a little more impact for a BT Team trying to vie for a BCS game near the end of the season.   

If playing Patsies is the way to go, I'm glad to be ignorant.

Lucky for you, this ignorant *** isn't in charge of Wisconsin scheduling.  We would not be playing Football Championship Series Teams, and we would be getting the best we could.

About the potential TX series.  In San Diego, my non-Badger buddies perceive Wisconsin as ducking TX.  I think that's true outside WI, regardless of the truth of why the series didn't go forward.  To me it's a shame.  It could have turned into a great tradition Dairy Cows v. Steers.  Cheese v. Steak.  Maybe we would have had to play the game at a neutral field - Philadelphia?