putting a CD-R together for tonight-

The Cult, The Cure, Depeche Mode, Love and Rockets, INXS, REM, U2, Psychedelic Furs, Simple Minds, The Clash, Eurythmics, - IM(not so) HO this era had some of the best music

Ideas?

 Joy Division sucked donkey dicks.

 +1 on Joy Division and The Cult.  I'd add Killing Joke, Slint, Pixies, Violent Femmes, Jane's Addiction, Sonic Youth, and Gang of Four. 

How 80's were REM and Jane's Addiction? They couldn't have been too influential in that decade, could they?

IMO, most of the music in the 80's should be forgotten.

Culture Club

Change it to the 90's.....Smashing Pumpkins

prime311:

 +1 on Joy Division and The Cult.  I'd add Killing Joke, Slint, Pixies, Violent Femmes, Jane's Addiction, Sonic Youth, and Gang of Four. 

What's with Joy Division-  They weren't even in the 80's- post punk docu stuff with their lead singer committing suicide, but the music was bad.

The Cult is one of my favs. Love like Blood is the only song I know by Killing Joke (I'll add that one). Never heard of Slint. Pixies I have heard of -don't know any songs. Femmes are a good call (and local) "gone daddy gone" is a classic. Partied with Janes Addiction after a concert in LA when I was in college(before they were big and signed with Warner)- "Ocean Size" is probably my favorite "or "Jane Says" - I would put that in the 90's alternative grunge stuff though. Sonic Youth- just know the song from Natural Born Killers- and Gang of Four- don't know much about their music - a freind of mine who was into mellow 80's stuff loved them- China Crisis, Pseudo Echo, Strawberry Switchblade, Yaz, ...

TheDude:

How 80's were REM and Jane's Addiction? They couldn't have been too influential in that decade, could they?

IMO, most of the music in the 80's should be forgotten.

REM was for sure- they INXS and U2 were probably the three biggest college bands of the 80's. Janes Addiction was more of a 90's thing. I totally disagree with you on 80's music - the stuff that should be forgotten is most of the top 40 crap in the last 15 years- the boy bands, the blond girl bands, etc. 

 I love classic rock, good metal, grunge, 80's, jazz, classical, etc- pretty much everything, but country, boy bands, and chick singers with no talent. 

TheDude:

How 80's were REM and Jane's Addiction? They couldn't have been too influential in that decade, could they?

IMO, most of the music in the 80's should be forgotten.

Jane's Addiction peaked in the late 80's.  This is when both Nothing's Shocking and Ritual were released.  They broke up in 91.  REM formed in 80, and the 80's was when all of their good material came out(IMO anyway).  They were just more popular in the 90's.  The post-punk scene especially had a lot of good bands, like some named here already(Cult, Clash, U2, Killing Joke, Slint). 

You say 80's I say most music.  Every decade is filled with a litany of forgettable, but popular bands.  As much as I'd love to say every hair band album should be burnt to a crisp, its hard to deny how good some of it actually is.  It did popularize for a reason.  I'd dare anyone to give a fair listen to Too Fast for Love or Shout at the Devil, Motley Crue's first 2 releases, Out of the Cellar from Ratt, or Slide It In from Whitesnake which was their first real foray into rock after being more bluesy.  These were gold standards that were mimic'd(and usually poorly) by hundreds of bands after.   Its also hard to deny how great of a vocalist Klaus Meine(Scorpions) and then Sebastian Bach(Skid Row) were.      A discerning ear can pick out the slick from the sludge regardless of era or style.    

Destinos2:

What's with Joy Division-  They weren't even in the 80's- post punk docu stuff with their lead singer committing suicide, but the music was bad.

The Cult is one of my favs. Love like Blood is the only song I know by Killing Joke (I'll add that one). Never heard of Slint. Pixies I have heard of -don't know any songs. Femmes are a good call (and local) "gone daddy gone" is a classic. Partied with Janes Addiction after a concert in LA when I was in college(before they were big and signed with Warner)- "Ocean Size" is probably my favorite "or "Jane Says" - I would put that in the 90's alternative grunge stuff though. Sonic Youth- just know the song from Natural Born Killers- and Gang of Four- don't know much about their music - a freind of mine who was into mellow 80's stuff loved them- China Crisis, Pseudo Echo, Strawberry Switchblade, Yaz, ...

I don't think you give Joy Division a fair shake.  For one, you need to get past the poor production on their albums, their singer commited suicide before they even had a hit.  For two, they were one of the most influential bands of that era, because they had a truly original style and were very good at it.  The Smiths and the Cure expanded the style they invented, and this was also the groundwork for early Industrial bands like Nine Inch Nails and Skinny Puppy.  This isn't to say that more popular bands like U2 weren't also influential, but U2 for example wasn't really original they were just probably the best band of that particular style of that era( and maybe ever).  Perhaps JD shouldn't be listed with 80's bands though, as their last album was released in 1979, but they really became popular in the 80's.  Lastly, I'm not sure how much you've even listened to them.  Love Will Tear us Apart, Dead Souls, She's Lost Control are all amazing songs, but again you have to realize the production on their albums was not very good.  The saddest thing about Joy Division is that they never came near reaching their full potential. 

Slint is another band that was very influential, only released 2 poorly produced albums and like 20 songs total, and never reached full potential.   The Pixies really derived their sound from Slint, and they also helped develop the sound used by later bands like Radiohead and Death Cab for Cutie.  Although Slint's lead singer left a lot to be desired.  I could be a bit biased here though, post-punk and math rock are probably my favorite styles of music and Slint had a big part in developing both math rock and the 2nd/3rd gen of post punk. 

I guarantee you've heard Pixies song's but you just don't realize it.  To name a few: Here Comes Your Man, Gouge Away, Where is my Mind?, and U-Mass.  Look them up on youtube.  My personal opinion though is the song Trompe Le Monde(on Trompe Le Monde) is a 105 second musical masterpiece, and Subbacultcha is also one of my favorites.   The Pixies also drew heavily from both of those influential bands I mentioned previously, Slint and Joy Division. 

Killing Joke's most popular song was called, fittingly, Eighties.  The whole Night Time Album is really awesome though. 

The only reason you might put Jane's with grunge is because some grunge bands were influenced by them.   Grunge exploded in 90, and the original Lollapalooza, the alternative festival that brought the music of most of those early grunge bands to the US, was formed as a farewell tour for them. 

PS Music is one of the few things I know better then Football lol.  

prime311:

TheDude:

How 80's were REM and Jane's Addiction? They couldn't have been too influential in that decade, could they?

IMO, most of the music in the 80's should be forgotten.

 

Jane's Addiction peaked in the late 80's.  This is when both Nothing's Shocking and Ritual were released.  They broke up in 91.  REM formed in 80, and the 80's was when all of their good material came out(IMO anyway).  They were just more popular in the 90's.  The post-punk scene especially had a lot of good bands, like some named here already(Cult, Clash, U2, Killing Joke, Slint). 

 

You say 80's I say most music.  Every decade is filled with a litany of forgettable, but popular bands.  As much as I'd love to say every hair band album should be burnt to a crisp, its hard to deny how good some of it actually is.  It did popularize for a reason.  I'd dare anyone to give a fair listen to Too Fast for Love or Shout at the Devil, Motley Crue's first 2 releases, Out of the Cellar from Ratt, or Slide It In from Whitesnake which was their first real foray into rock after being more bluesy.  These were gold standards that were mimic'd(and usually poorly) by hundreds of bands after.   Its also hard to deny how great of a vocalist Klaus Meine(Scorpions) and then Sebastian Bach(Skid Row) were.      A discerning ear can pick out the slick from the sludge regardless of era or style.    

Your right about Janes- just don't equate their sound with these other 80 groups. Agree with the hair band comment- You know your stuff- almost no one has heard of "Too Fast For Love" - that is a good album if your into that kind of music. Ratt- "Round and Round"- is the only song that was much good on that album. Never really thought of Meine or Bach (more so true of Bach) as great singers.

prime311:

Destinos2:

What's with Joy Division-  They weren't even in the 80's- post punk docu stuff with their lead singer committing suicide, but the music was bad.

The Cult is one of my favs. Love like Blood is the only song I know by Killing Joke (I'll add that one). Never heard of Slint. Pixies I have heard of -don't know any songs. Femmes are a good call (and local) "gone daddy gone" is a classic. Partied with Janes Addiction after a concert in LA when I was in college(before they were big and signed with Warner)- "Ocean Size" is probably my favorite "or "Jane Says" - I would put that in the 90's alternative grunge stuff though. Sonic Youth- just know the song from Natural Born Killers- and Gang of Four- don't know much about their music - a freind of mine who was into mellow 80's stuff loved them- China Crisis, Pseudo Echo, Strawberry Switchblade, Yaz, ...

 

I don't think you give Joy Division a fair shake.  For one, you need to get past the poor production on their albums, their singer commited suicide before they even had a hit.  For two, they were one of the most influential bands of that era, because they had a truly original style and were very good at it.  The Smiths and the Cure expanded the style they invented, and this was also the groundwork for early Industrial bands like Nine Inch Nails and Skinny Puppy.  This isn't to say that more popular bands like U2 weren't also influential, but U2 for example wasn't really original they were just probably the best band of that particular style of that era( and maybe ever).  Perhaps JD shouldn't be listed with 80's bands though, as their last album was released in 1979, but they really became popular in the 80's.  Lastly, I'm not sure how much you've even listened to them.  Love Will Tear us Apart, Dead Souls, She's Lost Control are all amazing songs, but again you have to realize the production on their albums was not very good.  The saddest thing about Joy Division is that they never came near reaching their full potential. 

 

Slint is another band that was very influential, only released 2 poorly produced albums and like 20 songs total, and never reached full potential.   The Pixies really derived their sound from Slint, and they also helped develop the sound used by later bands like Radiohead and Death Cab for Cutie.  Although Slint's lead singer left a lot to be desired.  I could be a bit biased here though, post-punk and math rock are probably my favorite styles of music and Slint had a big part in developing both math rock and the 2nd/3rd gen of post punk. 

I guarantee you've heard Pixies song's but you just don't realize it.  To name a few: Here Comes Your Man, Gouge Away, Where is my Mind?, and U-Mass.  Look them up on youtube.  My personal opinion though is the song Trompe Le Monde(on Trompe Le Monde) is a 105 second musical masterpiece, and Subbacultcha is also one of my favorites.   The Pixies also drew heavily from both of those influential bands I mentioned previously, Slint and Joy Division. 

Killing Joke's most popular song was called, fittingly, Eighties.  The whole Night Time Album is really awesome though. 

 

The only reason you might put Jane's with grunge is because some grunge bands were influenced by them.   Grunge exploded in 90, and the original Lollapalooza, the alternative festival that brought the music of most of those early grunge bands to the US, was formed as a farewell tour for them. 

 

PS Music is one of the few things I know better then Football lol.  

pristine- hats off, you really know your music. 

I look at Joy Division as a lesser known Sex Pistols- both IMHO are over-rated for being groundbreaking.  Forgot about the Smiths- "How soon is Now" and "What Difference Does it Make" have been added. OK- "Love Will Tear Us Apart"- good song.

What is your opinion of some industrial groups- I probably use this term/genre loosely- 

Front 242-Headhunter

Skinny Puppy

Nitzer Ebb- I can't think of the name of the CD off-hand maybe "Control" I can see it Orange/Black -maybe "Showtime" that is a fricking awesome album. "Muderous" is also a great tune.

 I had a brief period where I was really into some Industrial music, particularly White Zombie(Sexorcisto), and anything from Nine Inch Nails or Ministry, and Last Rights from Skinny Puppy, but I never strayed too far off the beaten path.  It was all downhill for me after the Crow Soundtrack(the NIN song on here is actually a remake of a Joy Division song), not just because the Crow actually ended up being a musical segway that got me more into standard metal then Industrial, but the scene just seemed to die after it.  I couldn't stand post-Sexorcisto White Zombie, it was truly awful.  Skinny Puppy released The Process, which was just a huge disappointment after Last Rights, and then they split up.  Trent Reznor went on indefinite leave after Downward Spiral and never recaptured the magic.  Ministry had far too long of a time after Psalm 69 and Filth Pig also failed to live up to expectations. 

That said,  I'm probably just not a very good authority on Industrial Bands. There may have been ones that came out after 95 that didn't get radio play and I just didn't know of them.  Either I had just musically moved on at this point, or perhaps the extreme overplay of boring, overproduced, and generally forgettable parade of songs by bands like The Hunger, Gravity Kills, Marilyn Manson, and post-Sexorcisto Zombie had soured me on the style completely.  I will admit that Whither, Blister... from Stabbing Westward was a guilty pleasure of mine, but I'm not sure whether it was due to the quality of the music or because the albums release and 'I hate my ex and hope she has a terrible life' lyrics happened to coincide with my first love dumping me. 

 I know Front 242, but don't recall much about them.  All I know is I had a mix tape with some songs of theirs, but I don't even remember what they were.  Nitzer Ebb I dont know.  I'm not sure it means anything, but present day the only Industrial albums I still listen to are the Crow, In Case you didn't feel like showing up(awesome Ministry live album), and Last Rights.  

 Prime- You should download the CD by Nitzer Ebb called "Showtime" also the single "Murderous" that is probably their best known- I would be surprised if you didn't know that song. Front 242 - A must is Headhunter- also there's a song called "Welcome to Paradise"

Here's some links- 

Wecome to paradise -   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osQMG9f0HC0

Headhunter-  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44SZ_9_modg