Here is an article about how Chamberlin was better than Jordan!

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  • 11-22-2009 7:49 PM

    Here is an article about how Chamberlin was better than Jordan!

    Here is an exerpt from an article on why Wilt Chamberlin was better than Michael Jordan.

     In a 151-147 triple-overtime victory against Philadelphia on Dec. 8, 1961, Baylor scored 63 points for the Lakers. But it was a bittersweet night -- Chamberlain broke Baylor's 2-year-old individual record with 78 points in the losing effort.

     Chamberlain didn't just double the 50-point milestone before that sparse crowd (4,124) for the Warriors-Knicks neutral-site game. He scored 59 points in the second half. Only 19 other players in NBA history have scored more than that in entire games.

    Chamberlain scored 50 or more 118 times in his career. Michael Jordan ranks second with 31 in regular-season games -- which means Chamberlain lapped the field twice. Kobe Bryant has 24 games of 50 or more so far, Baylor did it 17 times and Rick Barry scored 50 points 14 times.

    Chamberlain, as most fans know, averaged better than 50 points over a whole season. He did it in 1961-62, when he scored 4,029 points in 80 appearances for a 50.4 average.

    7. That season, Chamberlain scored at least 50 points in 45 games, as many as Jordan and Barry combined in their whole careers.

    8. No one in a single season has been closer than 5.6 points of that -- and that was Chamberlain, too, when he averaged 44.8 the following season as the Warriors moved from Philadelphia to San Francisco. In that "slump'' year, the Big Dipper scored 50 on 30 occasions. Next-most in one season by any player? Bryant had 10 games of 50 or more in 2006-07.

    No one else has been within 13 points of Chamberlain's lofty average. Jordan averaged 37.1 points in 1986-87 -- and still ranked behind Chamberlain's 38.4 ppg in 1960-61 and the rookie Wilt's 37.6 ppg in 1959-60.

    10. As you might expect, no one can touch Chamberlain when it comes to stringing together those 50-point performances. He holds the top four spots for most consecutive games of 50 or more -- and they all came in the same season. Wilt reached 50 in five straight games from Dec. 8-13, 1961, then began a seven-game streak (still the record) on Dec. 16 that stretched through Dec. 29. He stacked up six 50-point efforts from Jan. 11-19 and ran off five more from Feb. 25 through March 4.

    Here is the complete article talking about Jennings and comparing him to Chamberlin on his scoring:

    http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/steve_aschburner/11/16/50on50/index.html?ls=eref:yahoovideo

    In closing, my point is, why retire Jordans number 23 without retiring Wilt's no. 13 . Lebron is too young to remember Wilt though.

  • 11-22-2009 8:31 PM In reply to

    Re: Here is an article about how Chamberlin was better than Jordan!

    nice jft and what about karrem the all-time scorer who has leukemia  or Oscar  Mr triple double or Russell and all his rings.

    wisco13 said "i would rather be a loser" which is good cause he is
  • 11-22-2009 8:56 PM In reply to

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    It probably helps when you are 5 inches taller than everyone you play against during that era

    To be proven wrong should be celebrated for it is elevating someone to a new level of understanding and awareness
  • 11-22-2009 8:57 PM In reply to

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    willie key:

    It probably helps when you are 5 inches taller than everyone you play against during that era

    so you are saying he was not great? he played against a lot of very good big men.

    wisco13 said "i would rather be a loser" which is good cause he is
  • 11-22-2009 9:05 PM In reply to

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    quicksdraw:

    willie key:

    It probably helps when you are 5 inches taller than everyone you play against during that era

    so you are saying he was not great? he played against a lot of very good big men.

    I'm not saying that at all.  But he was ahead of his time.  I think he would be a great center nowadays.  but his stats would never come close to those if he played now.  He would be a perennial all star in this era.  But he wouldnt be scorinig 50 points a night.  I would stake everything I have in that

    To be proven wrong should be celebrated for it is elevating someone to a new level of understanding and awareness
  • 11-22-2009 9:17 PM In reply to

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    willie key:

    quicksdraw:

    willie key:

    It probably helps when you are 5 inches taller than everyone you play against during that era

    so you are saying he was not great? he played against a lot of very good big men.

    I'm not saying that at all.  But he was ahead of his time.  I think he would be a great center nowadays.  but his stats would never come close to those if he played now.  He would be a perennial all star in this era.  But he wouldnt be scorinig 50 points a night.  I would stake everything I have in that

    i have no way to take you up on that, so no since arguing it.   you could be right though, 1st find me a point guard unselfish enough in todays, look at me game, to throw it into wilt 25-50 times a night.

    wisco13 said "i would rather be a loser" which is good cause he is
  • 11-22-2009 9:21 PM In reply to

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    quicksdraw:

    willie key:

    quicksdraw:

    willie key:

    It probably helps when you are 5 inches taller than everyone you play against during that era

    so you are saying he was not great? he played against a lot of very good big men.

    I'm not saying that at all.  But he was ahead of his time.  I think he would be a great center nowadays.  but his stats would never come close to those if he played now.  He would be a perennial all star in this era.  But he wouldnt be scorinig 50 points a night.  I would stake everything I have in that

    i have no way to take you up on that, so no since arguing it.   you could be right though, 1st find me a point guard unselfish enough in todays, look at me game, to throw it into wilt 25-50 times a night.

    I just think he was dominant because of how big and strong and athletic he was.  Not his actual basketball skills.  Guys like Tim Duncan and Hakeem Olajuwon actually have a better around the basket game.  I dont think he could push around guys like David Robinson like he could those guys in the 50's.  He actually reminds of what Dwight Howard is now

    To be proven wrong should be celebrated for it is elevating someone to a new level of understanding and awareness
  • 11-22-2009 9:29 PM In reply to

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    you didnt find me that unselfish point guard either.

    wisco13 said "i would rather be a loser" which is good cause he is
  • 11-22-2009 9:36 PM In reply to

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    quicksdraw:

    you didnt find me that unselfish point guard either.

    Chris Paul and John Stockton and Magic Johnson

    To be proven wrong should be celebrated for it is elevating someone to a new level of understanding and awareness
  • 11-22-2009 9:40 PM In reply to

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    willie key:

    quicksdraw:

    you didnt find me that unselfish point guard either.

    Chris Paul and John Stockton and Magic Johnson

    um were talking todays game were we not?  paul?  maybe but you had better say nash then to.

    wisco13 said "i would rather be a loser" which is good cause he is
  • 11-23-2009 11:43 AM In reply to

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    quicksdraw:

    nice jft and what about karrem the all-time scorer who has leukemia  or Oscar  Mr triple double or Russell and all his rings.

    I just read this article and it talked about how good Wilt was and it reminded me of the Lebron James thing about retiring the number 23, because Jordan was sooooo good, well look at acctually how good Wilt was (not to mention about how good he was with the lady's, LOL)
  • 11-23-2009 11:47 AM In reply to

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    willie key:

    quicksdraw:

    willie key:

    It probably helps when you are 5 inches taller than everyone you play against during that era

    so you are saying he was not great? he played against a lot of very good big men.

    I'm not saying that at all.  But he was ahead of his time.  I think he would be a great center nowadays.  but his stats would never come close to those if he played now.  He would be a perennial all star in this era.  But he wouldnt be scorinig 50 points a night.  I would stake everything I have in that

    You cant say he would or wouldnt be that good now, because you cant compare the 2, but he was great, who also knows how good Jordan would be now? He also doesnt play anymore. All you can say is how great they were at the time and look at each of their stats.
  • 11-23-2009 12:52 PM In reply to

    Re: Here is an article about how Chamberlin was better than Jordan!

    willie key:

    quicksdraw:

    willie key:

    It probably helps when you are 5 inches taller than everyone you play against during that era

    so you are saying he was not great? he played against a lot of very good big men.

    I'm not saying that at all.  But he was ahead of his time.  I think he would be a great center nowadays.  but his stats would never come close to those if he played now.  He would be a perennial all star in this era.  But he wouldnt be scorinig 50 points a night.  I would stake everything I have in that

    Before you stake everything you have on that, here's a step-by-step guide to compute what Wilt would score today.

    1. Visualize the center with the best post moves you have ever seen
    2. Put him in Dwight Howard's body with the following adjustments:
      • Increase his height by four inches
      • Increase his vertical leap by eight inches
    3. Give him the stamina to play 48 minutes a game
    4. Look around the league for a center who could stop him

    I come up with around 40 a game. Really, more like as many as he feels like scoring on any given night.

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  • 11-23-2009 1:13 PM In reply to

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    same old story the youngs dont want to give the old guys their do and the old guys that saw those them play have to try to set things straight.

    wisco13 said "i would rather be a loser" which is good cause he is
  • 11-23-2009 1:15 PM In reply to

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    they only had like 9 teams back then but it seems everyone of them had a quailty big man, so wilt never really had a night off.

    wisco13 said "i would rather be a loser" which is good cause he is
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