how bad does it have to get before the blind can see the light?

If you are a true Packer fan, it doesn't matter if they are 2-14, you still root for them.  They are pretty banged up on defense.  If you look at the glass being half full, the receiving corps is healthy again, and the running game is starting to improve.  I don't hang this L on Rodgers.  Moreso on the run Defense, and D play calling.  That Punter has got to go!!!!

lambeaulambo:

If you are a true Packer fan, it doesn't matter if they are 2-14, you still root for them.  They are pretty banged up on defense.  If you look at the glass being half full, the receiving corps is healthy again, and the running game is starting to improve.  I don't hang this L on Rodgers.  Moreso on the run Defense, and D play calling.  That Punter has got to go!!!!

lol you did not just go there.....wow.     not rodgers fault at all, its ted and mikes fault,big time.

 Lol, I thought Ki1ne started this thread.

Where's cheesefvck and his "2-3", tie for 2nd in the north" comment? LOL

lambeaulambo:

 I don't hang this L on Rodgers. 

shipitdear:

lambeaulambo:

 I don't hang this L on Rodgers. 

Maybe not but would we have been better off w/ Brett Favre at quarterback this year?  No effing doubt.

like i have said who switches QBs when that close to a superbowl?   favre, rodgers, flynn sounds a lot better than rodgers, rook, rook.

quicksdraw:

shipitdear:

lambeaulambo:

 I don't hang this L on Rodgers. 

Maybe not but would we have been better off w/ Brett Favre at quarterback this year?  No effing doubt.

 

like i have said who switches QBs when that close to a superbowl?   favre, rodgers, flynn sounds a lot better than rodgers, rook, rook.

shipitdear:

lambeaulambo:

 I don't hang this L on Rodgers. 

Maybe not but would we have been better off w/ Brett Favre at quarterback this year?  No effing doubt.

Hey shipit,

I understand that everyone has their own opinion, but I just don't get this one.

What does Brett do that Rodgers doesn't at this point?

Rodgers throws a better deep ball.  He completes just as many passes and it's not like Favre protects the ball very well.

I don't think Favre would have completed that ball to Driver.

Favre probably completes that ball to Jennings when Rodgers left it short, but that's the only play where I think it would have mattered.

The defense was absolutely terrible.  The playcalling was bad.  Favre couldn't fix those things.

ike1024:

I don't think Favre would have completed that ball to Driver.

Favre could have completed it off his back foot. 

ike1024:

What does Brett do that Rodgers doesn't at this point?

 

ike1024:

shipitdear:

lambeaulambo:

 I don't hang this L on Rodgers. 

Maybe not but would we have been better off w/ Brett Favre at quarterback this year?  No effing doubt.

Hey shipit,

I understand that everyone has their own opinion, but I just don't get this one.

What does Brett do that Rodgers doesn't at this point?

Rodgers throws a better deep ball.  He completes just as many passes and it's not like Favre protects the ball very well.

I don't think Favre would have completed that ball to Driver.

Favre probably completes that ball to Jennings when Rodgers left it short, but that's the only play where I think it would have mattered.

The defense was absolutely terrible.  The playcalling was bad.  Favre couldn't fix those things.

i agree with this up to the favre couldnt fix those things.  the problem with that is the pack could have have lost by 4 tds while favre tried to fix it.  favre takes more chances and changes the play more at the line and has 16 years experience doing it.   i have no bad things to say about rodgers, he is fine its tt and mm that are the problem and its becoming more apparent every week.

tankduke3:

ike1024:

I don't think Favre would have completed that ball to Driver.

 

Favre could have completed it off his back foot. 

 

And his eyes closed......  with his hands tied behind his back......  

Maybe Favre would have played D.....

I like how we can find 2 games where Brett made the difference......  2 f'n games last year....  seriously, maybe that was the play calling and the element of surprise for thedeep ball?? 

Rodgers threw the ball well today.....   To say Brett wins us this game is horseshlt though, what did he do the previous 4 years before last year, and how many INT's did he throw again..  Love your arguement thought.....   can you tell me how big  Brett's jock is again?? 

tankduke3:

ike1024:

I don't think Favre would have completed that ball to Driver.

 

Favre could have completed it off his back foot. 

 

You apparently didn't watch overthrow/underthrow receivers on deep balls for 15 years.  He was great at certain things, throwing an accuarte deep ball was certainly not one of them.

ike1024:

shipitdear:

lambeaulambo:

 I don't hang this L on Rodgers. 

Maybe not but would we have been better off w/ Brett Favre at quarterback this year?  No effing doubt.

Hey shipit,

I understand that everyone has their own opinion, but I just don't get this one.

What does Brett do that Rodgers doesn't at this point?

Rodgers throws a better deep ball.  He completes just as many passes and it's not like Favre protects the ball very well.

I don't think Favre would have completed that ball to Driver.

Favre probably completes that ball to Jennings when Rodgers left it short, but that's the only play where I think it would have mattered.

The defense was absolutely terrible.  The playcalling was bad.  Favre couldn't fix those things.

Seahawks are going to be in a surley mood next week......