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Jamil Wilson
Last post 11-19-2008 9:26 AM by mudubs. 43 replies.
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10-07-2008 11:19 AM
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Markedman


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Has cut his list to 4. Michigan State, Oregon, Texas, and MU.
Says he will now sign early instead of waiting until the spring.
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Jim Ganzer


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Thanks Markedman -
From what I am hearing, MSU appears to be in the drivers' seat while MU is still in teh mix very strong. Texas & Oregon follow, but I don't think he has visited the two yet and that could change their positioning. For whatever reason I don't see Oregon being a real player, but they seemed to pull a few out of the Midwest lately, so who knows.
Jamil and his dad are on the up and up, just don't know about some of the others that m ay have influence and how much influence they will have when it comes decision time. .
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Jim Ganzer


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Good question.... In college Jamil will probably be a 3-2 combo, if he improves his handle possible even 2-3.
MU is deep in that regard, but when you have a top 25 recruit interested in your program, you are going to have to take your best shot. Also, look 2 years down the road when Jamil would be a soph at MU....
Dominic, Jerel, Wes, David Cubillan & Maurice Acker would all be gone.
Butler and Fulce would be seniors, and Fulce will be more of a 3-4.
That would leave 1 senior at the 2-3 spots from the current roster.
Incoming sophs would be Cadougan, Williams & Buycks a junior.
2 guys that can play the point.
3 guys that could play the 2G
3 guys that could play the SF.
That is a total 5 guys. Unless the other 8 are all centers & powers forwards, that's not very deep.
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Rocco


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Jim Ganzer:
Good question.... In college Jamil will probably be a 3-2 combo, if he improves his handle possible even 2-3.
MU is deep in that regard, but when you have a top 25 recruit interested in your program, you are going to have to take your best shot. Also, look 2 years down the road when Jamil would be a soph at MU....
Dominic, Jerel, Wes, David Cubillan & Maurice Acker would all be gone.
Butler and Fulce would be seniors, and Fulce will be more of a 3-4.
That would leave 1 senior at the 2-3 spots from the current roster.
Incoming sophs would be Cadougan, Williams & Buycks a junior.
2 guys that can play the point.
3 guys that could play the 2G
3 guys that could play the SF.
That is a total 5 guys. Unless the other 8 are all centers & powers forwards, that's not very deep.
Jim,
If MU was to get Wilson, would't that almost assure that one of the 3 2009 recruits would most likely transfer at some point? Arent Williams, Maymon, and Wilson, all true 3's. Im not sure how much I would like having our 2, 3, and 4 all be the same type of player, unless they are more different than what Ive read? I would much rather get Snaer at this point, but judging by the schools in the mix for him I highly doubt we have a real shot at him. In your honest opinion, who do we have a better shot at Snaer or Wilson, and which one would make the team better? Who do you like more?
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AbeFroman


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Jim Ganzer:
MU is deep in that regard, but when you have a top 25 recruit interested in your program, you are going to have to take your best shot.
That's probably a huge stretch, considering the (by far) largest and most respected recruiting site has him at #93. Quasi/non-truths like that comment are the reason you have lost most of your credibility on here..... But that doesn't change the fact you can't have too many 6'-6" or 6'-7" athletes, which I think was your general point.
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Rocco


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AbeFroman:
Jim Ganzer:
MU is deep in that regard, but when you have a top 25 recruit interested in your program, you are going to have to take your best shot.
That's probably a huge stretch, considering the (by far) largest and most respected recruiting site has him at #93. Quasi/non-truths like that comment are the reason you have lost most of your credibility on here..... But that doesn't change the fact you can't have too many 6'-6" or 6'-7" athletes, which I think was your general point.
Scout.com has him rated as the 29th overall player and the 5th ranked SF. I personally prefer Scout to rivals(which is where you got 93 from) but if you average it out he is about 61st, espn.com has him at 60 and the 11th ranked SF. Ganzers initial statement which you quoted is still true, you still have to take your best shot. I would still rather have Snaer over Wilson if given the choice. Odds are MU wont get either due to the competition they are facing. Hopefully we will get Snaer he seems like more a "Blue Chip" guy, not a tweener like Wilson.
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ike1024


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AbeFroman:That's probably a huge stretch, considering the (by far) largest and most respected recruiting site has him at #93.
For all the times that you denigrate recruiting services and their credibility, it's laughable that you would then cite one for your proposition that Wilson isn't a top-25 recruit (regardless of whether he is).
AbeFroman:Quasi/non-truths like that comment are the reason you have lost most of your credibility on here
I'm not sure anyone other than you really questions Jim's credibility.
AbeFroman:But that doesn't change the fact you can't have too many 6'-6" or 6'-7" athletes, which I think was your general point.
No, you can't.
"It's been a long, long time comin' But I know a change gonna come, yes it will"
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Jim Ganzer


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Look Abe, Jamil was in everybody's top 25, most top 10. Then he dropped big time as he had a so-so summer, but I think there are a few main reasons for that. As you can see in these RSCI rankings, he clocks in at 48, with a change of -35. That means when they did this Pre-Summer, he was 13th in the Nation based off of EVERYONE's rankings.
No doubt that Abe looks for the lowest ranking he can find to argue with me, so instead of taking Abe's self-glorified word for it, here is where he was Pre-Summer vs now.
Pre-Summer vs Post Summer HoopScoop - 10 - 85 (dropped 75 spots) Rivals - 58 - 93 (dropped 35 spots) Hoopmasters - 9 - 44 (dropped 35 spots) Scout - 16 - 35 (dropped 19 spots) PrepStars(O) - ? - 36 Sports Ill - 12 - 60 (dropped 48 spots) PrepStars (H) - ? - 26
He has a lot of talent. Has the size, the skills and the speed to become a great player. When he eliminates the 'noise', buckles down and focuses and gets some college coaching, he very well could become what he was projected to be six months ago.
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MU_Shack


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Jim Ganzer:
He has a lot of talent. Has the size, the skills and the speed to become a great player. When he eliminates the 'noise', buckles down and focuses and gets some college coaching, he very well could become what he was projected to be six months ago.
If that's the case about the "noise" and distractions from his "advisors", I don't know if Marquette is the best place for him. He'll probably be able to develop his game more if he eliminates those outside influences and goes to a school away from home. I heard it's between Marquette, Oregon, Texas, and Michigan St. and he'll commit earlier then originally stated (March 8). It's kind of a catch 22 for Marquette....Buzz can sell the close to home idea and being closer to all these people that are giving him advice but in turn we have to deal with all of the stuff that goes along with it. And I'm sure Izzo and the rest are saying that he needs to get away from that crap and go to a school outside of the state; which is probably the right move for him personally because he is losing focus in his game, which is why we're seeing the drop in his value.
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Jim Ganzer


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He had a so-so summer. Did not play hard all of the time. Needs to give 100% - 100% of the time. It is not that he is not as good as he was, he just needs to focus and show that he has the desire.
I know what Scout said about an earlier commit, but I don't think it will be over any time soon. I am under the impression that MSU is the team to beat.
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Rocco


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Jim, any word on Snaer or Wilson? If MU can't get either of those 2 who is next in-line? Is it the big foreign kid?
Also, are there any visits for Marquette Madness?
Any 2010 recruiting news? Who are some of the names being talked about? Scout and Rivals have some pretty highly ranked guys interested in MU.
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AbeFroman


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Rocco:
Jim, any word on Snaer or Wilson? If MU can't get either of those 2 who is next in-line? Is it the big foreign kid?
Also, are there any visits for Marquette Madness?
Any 2010 recruiting news? Who are some of the names being talked about? Scout and Rivals have some pretty highly ranked guys interested in MU.
Why don't you just read those sites like Jim does. ;)
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Jim Ganzer


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I don't need to read sites Abe, I spoke to two of those three in the last week, I doubt the sites you are referring to have.
Snaer will be a tough get - may be leaning towards Mizzou, but Kansas is coming on strong. He has not been to Kansas yet, but is heading there for Madness.
I think MSU is still the leader for Jamil. It will be tough to pull him away from there, but it can be done. he will be tripping to Texas & Oregon, but I think it is between MSU and MU.
Sasa, Borovnjak (the big foreign kid) is a very skilled player but still too early to tell on him. Buzz has seen him play, but needs to see more before he offers him a scholly. I have a feeling that the kid might commit if Buzz offers and pushes hard, but I believe that BUzz wants to be very sure before he offers as that may be the result.
Who is next in line? Hard to tell as they are still sorting it all out.
There are a couple of confirmed visitors for Madness, but working on a better, more complete list. Off of the top of my head it will be Sasa, Shane Southwell, Ben Mills, Tobias Harris and I think Brett Roseboro, but not 100% sure on him.
2010 has not been a hot topic as of yet just because they are still working hard on the 2009 class as it is a critical class for them. Some people are saying that Buzz may over recruit one spot, I would not be shocked if he went over by two - but we will see. Should all be sorted out in the coming weeks as signing period nears.
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