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  • 10-11-2008 9:16 AM

    Dr. Phil = Packers Defensive Coordinator

    Some of you were wondering what's wrong with the defense.  Could it be that our coordinator is better suited for the Oprah Winfrey show then the sideline of an NFL game????

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    Staying cool in the face of heavy fire

    Sanders not one to blast defense for being torched

    By BOB McGINN
    bmcginn@journalsentinel.com
    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008

    Green Bay - Beleaguered though he might be, the coordinator of the Green Bay Packers' flagging defense has stayed true to form this week and isn't browbeating his players.

    Bobb Sanders walked into the defensive meeting room on Monday, 24 hours after a distressing 27-24 loss to the Atlanta Falcons, and surprised some players with his non-confrontational approach.

    “One of the first things he said when he got up there was that there wasn’t going to be yelling and screaming,” defensive end Jason Hunter said Friday. “He said, ‘Let’s see what we got to do, let’s get it corrected and go from there.’ ”

    The Packers had just been cold-cocked in most distasteful fashion, beaten by a rookie quarterback (Matt Ryan) and unable to stop the run at the end even with 10 defenders in the box.

    As disgusted as Sanders and coach Mike McCarthy must have been, they remained professional in assessing the situation.

    “They were cool-headed,” defensive tackle Ryan Pickett said. “They said, ‘This is not time to panic.’ They believe in positive reinforcement.”

    Pickett, for one, thinks the internal show of faith by Sanders in the face of external criticism will pay off.

    “No matter how bad it seems to other people, he’ll bet everything on his defense,” Pickett said. “He believes in us so much.

    “We wanted to beat ourselves up so bad after we lost. But for him to come in and still believe in us the way he did, and say, ‘We’re not going to change, this is what we’re going to do, y’all, we can do it,’ that’s inspirational when someone has so much confidence in you.

    “Everybody is ready to turn this thing around.”

    Sanders, 54, coordinated defenses that ranked 12th in yards and tied for 25th in points in 2006 and 11th in yards and tied for sixth in points in ’07.

    This year, the Packers have crashed to 26th in yards and 23rd in points.

    Despite his high-profile position, most fans know little about Sanders. He doesn’t try to stand out on the sideline and isn’t quoted that much because what he has to say sometimes isn’t informative.

    Clearly, there is an intensity burning within Sanders that comes forth behind closed doors.

    “He gets real worked up in the meetings,” said Tracy White, a veteran linebacker cut by Green Bay on Tuesday. “Sometimes he gets so excited, he stops the film and, like, you can tell he’s ready to go play. Leave from that defensive room and go on the field right there. He’s got a passion for it.”

    However, several players said Sanders, a deeply religious man, had never used profanity around them.

    “He doesn’t cuss,” linebacker Brandon Chillar said. “But that’s just the kind of person he is. Decent guy. He’s got a lot of character.”

    Chillar said combustible Jim Haslett, the St. Louis Rams’ head coach who served as Chillar’s defensive coordinator in 2006 and ’07, was the direct opposite of Sanders in terms of using salty language and raising his voice.

    “It can go one of two ways,” Chillar said. “You can have coaches that yell or coaches that stay positive. (Sanders) is one of the positive guys, I guess. I appreciate it.”

    So does cornerback Will Blackmon, who also likes the fact that Sanders isn’t afraid to tell players when he erred in preparation or in his calls.

    “If we’re going to do that,” said Blackmon, referring to coaching calling out players, “we might as well just give up the season.”

    Each week, the video department puts together tape of so-called “explosive” plays against the defense. Sanders handles the narration in front of his 25 players, but even in that setting he elects not to name names.

    “Like on Monday he said, ‘A defensive end read boot instead of playing the run,’ ” said the defensive end in question, Aaron Kampman, who guessed wrong and then watched Michael Turner break a 22-yard run. “It’s up on the screen. We’re not dumb. You don’t have to embarrass a man.”

    Linebacker Nick Barnett said Sanders did go off on players, but it’s usually done one-on-one either in the facility or the practice field.

    What does trip Sanders’ trigger?

    “When we make the same mistake over and over,” Pickett said. “If somebody beats you, he’s not going to get mad. But if you make a bad judgment or missed assignments, stuff like that makes him mad.”

    Sanders is all business almost all the time, although there’s nothing he enjoys more than packing up wife Kathie and the couple’s children for a week or two of vacation with old friends along the ocean in his native North Carolina.

    Sanders might have an easy sense of humor in social settings but, according to Pickett, he would be the last man to begin cracking jokes or acting funny.

    “There’s no reason to dislike him,” cornerback Tramon Williams said. “He’s got pretty good personality. He’s a pretty good coach.”

    Said Pickett: “Players like Sanders. I haven’t heard anybody complain about anybody on our coaching staff. The whole coaching staff is different than coaches I’ve been around. In a good way, a goooooood way.”

    Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty. - Thomas Jefferson
  • 10-11-2008 9:32 AM In reply to

    Re: Dr. Phil = Packers Defensive Coordinator

    Hothead like Haslett - or Dr. Phil like Sanders, it doesn't matter.

    What matters is having a coherent scheme that is easily understood and implemented and that doesn't rob players of their natural aggressiveness and intensity.

    Our players have too many reads and responsibilities - KISS is the way to go. It's a simple game really.

    Oh, and if someone's not playing well - BENCH THEIR SORRY ASS!!!

    I don't care if it's Barbre, Finley, Clifton or Bambi. Ever since Brett there's been a real reluctance to pull veteran players who are underachieving.

    There's no better way to get a players attention than having them sit and chafe on the pine. Even if it's only for a series or 2. You think a veteran player gives 2 $hits what a coach is jabbering about if he KNOWS he's in the next series or game? BS!!!

    I don't care if Sanders sings Kumbaya in the locker room - I DO care if our D gets their head out of their collective a$$es. And someone better find a way to motivate these overpaid circus clowns.

    And QUICKLY!!! 

    If you can meet with triumph and disaster
    and treat those two imposters just the same
  • 10-11-2008 11:42 PM In reply to

    Re: Dr. Phil = Packers Defensive Coordinator

    lamboo:

    Hothead like Haslett - or Dr. Phil like Sanders, it doesn't matter.

    What matters is having a coherent scheme that is easily understood and implemented and that doesn't rob players of their natural aggressiveness and intensity.

    Our players have too many reads and responsibilities - KISS is the way to go. It's a simple game really.

    Oh, and if someone's not playing well - BENCH THEIR SORRY ASS!!!

    I don't care if it's Barbre, Finley, Clifton or Bambi. Ever since Brett there's been a real reluctance to pull veteran players who are underachieving.

    There's no better way to get a players attention than having them sit and chafe on the pine. Even if it's only for a series or 2. You think a veteran player gives 2 $hits what a coach is jabbering about if he KNOWS he's in the next series or game? BS!!!

    I don't care if Sanders sings Kumbaya in the locker room - I DO care if our D gets their head out of their collective a$$es. And someone better find a way to motivate these overpaid circus clowns.

    And QUICKLY!!! 

    You are a piece of work, first of all I totally agree with benching a player that is consistently playing like shtt. How you managed to weave Favre in there as the blame for coaches unwillingness to bench current rostered players is patently absurd. As usual you can't see the forest for the tree's Boy Boo.

  • 10-12-2008 12:15 AM In reply to

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    Re: Dr. Phil = Packers Defensive Coordinator

    Yes, what in the h3ll does Brett have to do with Sanders and our defense?  Last I saw Brett is in NJ....good grief!

  • 10-12-2008 8:12 AM In reply to

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    Pugger:

    Yes, what in the h3ll does Brett have to do with Sanders and our defense?  Last I saw Brett is in NJ....good grief!

    Was making a point RE benching underachieving players.

    Brett $hit the bed on more than one occasion - how many times did he get yanked?

    Only a Favre-O-file would read that post and parse the one reference to Brett.

    Good grief!

    If you can meet with triumph and disaster
    and treat those two imposters just the same
  • 10-12-2008 10:32 AM In reply to

    Re: Dr. Phil = Packers Defensive Coordinator

    lamboo:

    Pugger:

    Yes, what in the h3ll does Brett have to do with Sanders and our defense?  Last I saw Brett is in NJ....good grief!

    Was making a point RE benching underachieving players.

    Brett $hit the bed on more than one occasion - how many times did he get yanked?

    Only a Favre-O-file would read that post and parse the one reference to Brett.

    Good grief!

    Only a douchebag would put Brett Favre and underachieving players in the same sentence.

    Thank you for confirming my opinion.

    " Favre's record against the Cowboys is so attrocious, I would rather go into this game with Matt Flynn". Wcheezer 9-18-2008
  • 10-12-2008 10:45 AM In reply to

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    larryktown:

    Only a douchebag would put Brett Favre and underachieving players in the same sentence.

    Thank you for confirming my opinion.

    LKT with another fawning offering RE Favre...

    who'da thunk it?

    Tell me again how I'M making this thread about Brett...

     

     

    If you can meet with triumph and disaster
    and treat those two imposters just the same
  • 10-12-2008 10:51 AM In reply to

    Re: Dr. Phil = Packers Defensive Coordinator

    lamboo:

    Pugger:

    Yes, what in the h3ll does Brett have to do with Sanders and our defense?  Last I saw Brett is in NJ....good grief!

    Was making a point RE benching underachieving players.

    Brett $hit the bed on more than one occasion - how many times did he get yanked?

    Only a Favre-O-file would read that post and parse the one reference to Brett.

    Good grief!

    You sure have a pretty high standard for your players.  According to you only about 3 to 4 players in the history of the NFL at QB werent underachieving.  Keep wishing for the Dilweg's, Whitehurst, Wright, days when we made the playoffs once every 8 or so years.  

    Lets get this out of the way.  We all know the 60's Packers were a great dynasty, only real men played football back in the NFL-AFL days and Elvis was good, Jack Nicklaus was better than Tiger Woods and George Mikan was better than Michael Jordan.  We havent forgotten the past, does that make you feel better.  Im sorry the Packers won a SB in 1996, have the best winning % since 1992, and ruined everything in your little antiquated world of how football should be played.

    To be proven wrong should be celebrated for it is elevating someone to a new level of understanding and awareness
  • 10-12-2008 10:58 AM In reply to

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    willie key:

    You sure have a pretty high standard for your players.  According to you only about 3 to 4 players in the history of the NFL at QB werent underachieving.  Keep wishing for the Dilweg's, Whitehurst, Wright, days when we made the playoffs once every 8 or so years.  

    What?

    willie key:
    Im sorry

    If it's for being vague and obscure... apology accepted.

    Anyone keeping score on the "all about Brett" posts?

     

    If you can meet with triumph and disaster
    and treat those two imposters just the same
  • 10-12-2008 11:08 AM In reply to

    Re: Dr. Phil = Packers Defensive Coordinator

    lamboo:

    larryktown:

    Only a douchebag would put Brett Favre and underachieving players in the same sentence.

    Thank you for confirming my opinion.

    LKT with another fawning offering RE Favre...

    who'da thunk it?

    Tell me again how I'M making this thread about Brett...

     

     

    The thread was about Sanders. Somehow you wove Favre into it.

    Don't you read what you post?

    " Favre's record against the Cowboys is so attrocious, I would rather go into this game with Matt Flynn". Wcheezer 9-18-2008
  • 10-12-2008 11:10 AM In reply to

    Re: Dr. Phil = Packers Defensive Coordinator

    lamboo:

    willie key:

    You sure have a pretty high standard for your players.  According to you only about 3 to 4 players in the history of the NFL at QB werent underachieving.  Keep wishing for the Dilweg's, Whitehurst, Wright, days when we made the playoffs once every 8 or so years.  

    What?

    willie key:
    Im sorry

    If it's for being vague and obscure... apology accepted.

    Anyone keeping score on the "all about Brett" posts?

     

    More cut and paste from Lamboo. Whouldathunk it!

    " Favre's record against the Cowboys is so attrocious, I would rather go into this game with Matt Flynn". Wcheezer 9-18-2008
  • 10-12-2008 11:10 AM In reply to

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    larryktown:

    The thread was about Sanders. Somehow you wove Favre into it.

    Don't you read what you post?

    I MENTIONED Brett... don't YOU read what I post?

    There was a lot more about Sanders in there than Brett.

    Whats the count now?

    If you can meet with triumph and disaster
    and treat those two imposters just the same
  • 10-12-2008 11:12 AM In reply to

    Re: Dr. Phil = Packers Defensive Coordinator

    larryktown:

    lamboo:

    willie key:

    You sure have a pretty high standard for your players.  According to you only about 3 to 4 players in the history of the NFL at QB werent underachieving.  Keep wishing for the Dilweg's, Whitehurst, Wright, days when we made the playoffs once every 8 or so years.  

    What?

    willie key:
    Im sorry

    If it's for being vague and obscure... apology accepted.

    Anyone keeping score on the "all about Brett" posts?

     

    More cut and paste from Lamboo. Whouldathunk it!

    OK genius - YOU explain WTF WK was trying to say?

    If you can meet with triumph and disaster
    and treat those two imposters just the same
  • 10-12-2008 11:15 AM In reply to

    Re: Dr. Phil = Packers Defensive Coordinator

    I love guys who cut and paste posts to take out of context any meaning. 

    Quote from you "Since Brett, the team is reluctant to bench any underachieving veteran players".  Yeah, in the history of sports everybody benched underachieving veteran players but Brett was the first to become untouchable.

    It seems to me your world is centered around Favre more than anyone here.

    To be proven wrong should be celebrated for it is elevating someone to a new level of understanding and awareness
  • 10-12-2008 11:15 AM In reply to

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    For those interested - 1 mention of Brett spawned 5 catty responses exclusively RE our ex QB...

    and counting.

    If you can meet with triumph and disaster
    and treat those two imposters just the same
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