Bush to DL, Burns recalled (Update: Bush with Bicep Microtear)

Last post 07-04-2009 9:53 AM by The_Igniter. 48 replies.
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  • 07-03-2009 12:02 PM In reply to

    Re: Bush to DL, Burns recalled

    BrewerFanatic:
    I live in East Tennessee about 3 hours from Nashville. Actually live near Tennessee Smokies Cubs AA team. Been trying to get to the Huntsville games. Probably going tonight. I'll try to take some pictures

    Nice.  Do you get any of the minor league teams/games on TV?  I am not really up to date on the TV situation or range of Minor League teams.  I know the Wisconsin T-Rats (Appleton A ball club) has a couple of games on time warner cable but I think a big reason for that is Time Warner sponsors the field and is a big sponsor of the club.  If you do you would probably have the most knowledge of these minor leaguers of anybody on the board.  Basically all I know of any prospect is scouting reports and stats but that sometimes does not tell the whole story.

     

  • 07-03-2009 2:27 PM In reply to

    Re: Bush to DL, Burns recalled

    The_Igniter:

    Wisblue  & Mikeyjay.

    The early results are in and although the overall record for these two are the same (1-1) how they have pitched is entirely different.

    Burns has 12.1 innings in two starts and a 4.39 ERA.  His first start could have been won but McClung's replacement gave up 2 runs in a third of an inning in what ended up being a 2 run game.

    On the other hand, McClung has a 12.27 ERA in 7.1 innings and two starts.  He has really taxed the Bullpen, especially without him in there to eat some innings.

    It would be nice to know where the Brewers would be sitting with Chase Wright in the starting rotation instead of McClung in these 4 starts.

    What is this?  An "I told you so"?

    My point was always that it made sense to give McClung the first shot at the open rotation spot.  I don't care what's happened in his first two starts; the fact of the matter was he successfully made the move last year, and I didn't think it'd be smart to try a revolving door of untested AAA pitchers that scouts aren't high on just because they're having a good year in Nashville.

    Now I'm fine with trying something else. But I don't know why you felt the need to call me out here.  I still think your method of finding a "fix" to the rotation would've been more reckless than the reasonable one that Macha and the oganization eventually took.

    Eat a live toad first thing in the morning and nothing worse will happen to you for the rest of the day.
  • 07-03-2009 2:39 PM In reply to

    Re: Bush to DL, Burns recalled

    The_Igniter:

    It would be nice to know where the Brewers would be sitting with Chase Wright in the starting rotation instead of McClung in these 4 starts.

    Given his weak stuff and inconsistent command, I'm guessing Wright would've been hit harder.

    His 3.70 ERA in Nashville sure does look nice, but his 1.44 WHIP would likely be higher in the majors, meaning more walks and more hits (and less strikeouts, not that he strikes guys out a lot anyway).  I see no reason to think Wright would be a better bet to last 5+ innings in a major league start beyond the fact that his AAA bubble gum stats look good this year.

    Eat a live toad first thing in the morning and nothing worse will happen to you for the rest of the day.
  • 07-04-2009 9:53 AM In reply to

    Re: Bush to DL, Burns recalled

    mikeyjay21:
    What is this?  An "I told you so"?

    No just updating.  I didn't say I was right you are wrong.  I didn't say the results are in.  I said the early results are in.  Things can easily change although McClung might not get the chance to stick in the starting rotation.  That doesn''t mean that Burns can't fall on his face.

    mikeyjay21:

    My point was always that it made sense to give McClung the first shot at the open rotation spot.  I don't care what's happened in his first two starts; the fact of the matter was he successfully made the move last year, and I didn't think it'd be smart to try a revolving door of untested AAA pitchers that scouts aren't high on just because they're having a good year in Nashville.

    And again I think you are making to much of the jump between AAA and the majors and not enough of the jump from reliever to starter midseason.  Mike Burns, the ultimate example of the untested AAA pitchers that scouts aren't high on having a good year in Nashville, is performing admirably as the starter. 

    mikeyjay21:
    Now I'm fine with trying something else. But I don't know why you felt the need to call me out here.  I still think your method of finding a "fix" to the rotation would've been more reckless than the reasonable one that Macha and the oganization eventually took.

    I am just keeping the discussion open.  The fact of the matter is over the first 2 starts the more reckless approach has 12.1 innings and a 4.36 ERA and the more reasonable approach has a 12+ ERA in 4 innings or less per start.  So you can label them any way you want but the fact of the matter is the reckless approach is soon to have 2 people in the starting rotation while the reasonable approach is failing miserably.

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