geddymd72:

 He was out of baseball for two years. Gerut had one good year and, last year, and it was a fluke on a team that didn't give a crap. Being good on a team that only had 63 wins in the West is not that difficult. You might as well go back to 2002, and tell us how great Jose Hernandez was. Gerut is a dead man walking. His OPS with Milwaukee is .265. There is no way that guy should linger on this roster.

Gwynn has zero good years, including his minor leagues.

Gerut also had a 120 OPS+ his Rookie season in addition to his 130 OPS+ season in 2008, so saying he only had one good year is also BS.

MrQuestions:

geddymd72:

 He was out of baseball for two years. Gerut had one good year and, last year, and it was a fluke on a team that didn't give a crap. Being good on a team that only had 63 wins in the West is not that difficult. You might as well go back to 2002, and tell us how great Jose Hernandez was. Gerut is a dead man walking. His OPS with Milwaukee is .265. There is no way that guy should linger on this roster.

 

Gwynn has zero good years, including his minor leagues.

Gerut also had a 120 OPS+ his Rookie season in addition to his 130 OPS+ season in 2008, so saying he only had one good year is also BS.

+1

And I love this: "Being good on a team that only had 63 wins in the West is not that difficult".

There's some sound logic.

MrQuestions:

geddymd72:

 He was out of baseball for two years. Gerut had one good year and, last year, and it was a fluke on a team that didn't give a crap. Being good on a team that only had 63 wins in the West is not that difficult. You might as well go back to 2002, and tell us how great Jose Hernandez was. Gerut is a dead man walking. His OPS with Milwaukee is .265. There is no way that guy should linger on this roster.

 

Gwynn has zero good years, including his minor leagues.

Gerut also had a 120 OPS+ his Rookie season in addition to his 130 OPS+ season in 2008, so saying he only had one good year is also BS.

He had one good season last year, and one good one 6 years ago. We are all impressed now. Really reaching.

Last I checked 2 > 0.

Though math isn't my strongest subject.

klwillis45:

Last I checked 2 > 0.

Though math isn't my strongest subject.

In Gerut's case, I'd take the 0. A guy who can play now > A guy who used to play

Gerut has averages 2.55 balls per plate appearance with the Brewers (Less than all of the pitchers). At least Chris Duffy, who he replaced, was 4 for 28 with a double.

geddymd72:

klwillis45:

Last I checked 2 > 0.

Though math isn't my strongest subject.

 

In Gerut's case, I'd take the 0. A guy who can play now > A guy who used to play

Gerut has averages 2.55 balls per plate appearance with the Brewers (Less than all of the pitchers). At least Chris Duffy, who he replaced, was 4 for 28 with a double.

Gwynn was NEVER going to play here, and you know why?  Because he wsan't any good.  Don't you have some "patients" to see?

geddymd72:

Gerut has averages 2.55 balls per plate appearance with the Brewers (Less than all of the pitchers).

Because we all know how important it is that your PH/4th OF take a lot of pitches.

 JSOnline 5/28/09: Gotta love old Gerut.

When I asked Macha why he didn't bunt with Gerut, he made it seem as if he didn't think Gerut could get a bunt down. A bit strange, and more than a bit disappointing for a newly acquired backup outfielder.

"In my assessment of watching Jody out there (in batting practice), I felt more comfortable with him swinging the bat there."

Gerut is 1 for 6 since being acquired from San Diego last week. Asked if he thought Gerut was swinging the bat well enough to forego a bunt, Macha said, "It's not the swinging part. I'm not sure (about his bunting)."

Einsteinhood:

Jody Gerut hit .296/.351/.494/.845 in over 350 AB's last year in San Diego, guys.

There is a reason for that. He's not doing well at the moment, but odds are that isn't going to last.

Heether and  Bourgeois are also not as good as Gerut.

geddymd72:

 JSOnline 5/28/09: Gotta love old Gerut.

When I asked Macha why he didn't bunt with Gerut, he made it seem as if he didn't think Gerut could get a bunt down. A bit strange, and more than a bit disappointing for a newly acquired backup outfielder.

"In my assessment of watching Jody out there (in batting practice), I felt more comfortable with him swinging the bat there."

Gerut is 1 for 6 since being acquired from San Diego last week. Asked if he thought Gerut was swinging the bat well enough to forego a bunt, Macha said, "It's not the swinging part. I'm not sure (about his bunting)."

How does one hang around in the big leagues until one is 31 without developing the ability to bunt?

badger80:

Einsteinhood:

Jody Gerut hit .296/.351/.494/.845 in over 350 AB's last year in San Diego, guys.

There is a reason for that. He's not doing well at the moment, but odds are that isn't going to last.

Heether and  Bourgeois are also not as good as Gerut.

I don't know.  Looking at his minor league numbers, he was never as good as those 350 ABs.  Really, he has a very spotty major league track record, playing well his rookie year, mediocre his second season and then bouncing around before disappearing for a couple years.  Even if he can turn it around with .340ish OBP, he won't slug much over .400.  Right now he has 35 spotty plate appearances with the Brewers and he hasn't done anything to show he belongs on the team.

Nothing Gwynn has done says he's as good as his 50 AB (or whatever miniscule # he has in SD) indicate, either. Would you rather have a guy who has at least shown he has the ability to hit major league pitching, or a guy who has proven he can only marginally hit minor league pitching?

I'm not saying Gerut has been anything short of atrocious so far, but the knee-jerk teeth gnashing that idiots like Geddy are doing over this trade is just asinine.

StallisTim:

badger80:

Einsteinhood:

Jody Gerut hit .296/.351/.494/.845 in over 350 AB's last year in San Diego, guys.

There is a reason for that. He's not doing well at the moment, but odds are that isn't going to last.

Heether and  Bourgeois are also not as good as Gerut.

I don't know.  Looking at his minor league numbers, he was never as good as those 350 ABs.  Really, he has a very spotty major league track record, playing well his rookie year, mediocre his second season and then bouncing around before disappearing for a couple years.  Even if he can turn it around with .340ish OBP, he won't slug much over .400.  Right now he has 35 spotty plate appearances with the Brewers and he hasn't done anything to show he belongs on the team.

Nothing Gwynn has done says he's as good as his 50 AB (or whatever miniscule # he has in SD) indicate, either. Would you rather have a guy who has at least shown he has the ability to hit major league pitching, or a guy who has proven he can only marginally hit minor league pitching?

I'm not saying Gerut has been anything short of atrocious so far, but the knee-jerk teeth gnashing that idiots like Geddy are doing over this trade is just asinine.

 I would not. In fact Gwynn has seen more major league pitching in the past 3 years than Gerut has. Both Gwynn and Gerut have been spotty, but Gwynn is just getting started. Gerut is headed for retirement.

Gwynn is at 129 AB in San Diego and still over .300.

StallisTim:

badger80:

Einsteinhood:

Jody Gerut hit .296/.351/.494/.845 in over 350 AB's last year in San Diego, guys.

There is a reason for that. He's not doing well at the moment, but odds are that isn't going to last.

Heether and  Bourgeois are also not as good as Gerut.

I don't know.  Looking at his minor league numbers, he was never as good as those 350 ABs.  Really, he has a very spotty major league track record, playing well his rookie year, mediocre his second season and then bouncing around before disappearing for a couple years.  Even if he can turn it around with .340ish OBP, he won't slug much over .400.  Right now he has 35 spotty plate appearances with the Brewers and he hasn't done anything to show he belongs on the team.

Nothing Gwynn has done says he's as good as his 50 AB (or whatever miniscule # he has in SD) indicate, either. Would you rather have a guy who has at least shown he has the ability to hit major league pitching, or a guy who has proven he can only marginally hit minor league pitching?

I'm not saying Gerut has been anything short of atrocious so far, but the knee-jerk teeth gnashing that idiots like Geddy are doing over this trade is just asinine.

badger80:

StallisTim:

badger80:

Einsteinhood:

Jody Gerut hit .296/.351/.494/.845 in over 350 AB's last year in San Diego, guys.

There is a reason for that. He's not doing well at the moment, but odds are that isn't going to last.

Heether and  Bourgeois are also not as good as Gerut.

I don't know.  Looking at his minor league numbers, he was never as good as those 350 ABs.  Really, he has a very spotty major league track record, playing well his rookie year, mediocre his second season and then bouncing around before disappearing for a couple years.  Even if he can turn it around with .340ish OBP, he won't slug much over .400.  Right now he has 35 spotty plate appearances with the Brewers and he hasn't done anything to show he belongs on the team.

Nothing Gwynn has done says he's as good as his 50 AB (or whatever miniscule # he has in SD) indicate, either. Would you rather have a guy who has at least shown he has the ability to hit major league pitching, or a guy who has proven he can only marginally hit minor league pitching?

I'm not saying Gerut has been anything short of atrocious so far, but the knee-jerk teeth gnashing that idiots like Geddy are doing over this trade is just asinine.

The trade was just swapping parts and whichever player got off to a hot start would make the other side look like they got the butt of the deal.  I just get the feeling that Einstein is trying to peg Gerut as the guy from 2008 when in reality he was never that player.  He's better than he's been with the Brewers this year, but he isn't a major league regular.  The Brewers got what they paid for.

Yep, I'm with you then.