The sure sign of a loser...one call never is the reason a team loses a game.  The pitch was close but why did that pitch matter so much?  Oh yeah, the bases were loaded because the bases had been loaded by a combination of poor play and really bad managerial decisions.  Walk Milton Bradley???? Are you kidding me?  The guys has batted third or fourth the majority of the year and has 17, count em, 17 RBI.  I am old school so I know the true baseball men like Einsteinhood will tell you RBI's pale in comparison to some statistic off Baseball Prospectus but still, 17 RBI is pretty lame.  Follow that up by walking Geo Soto?  I thanked Macha for both of those moves.  How does that escape criticism?  Blame it on the ump!  Was the call close?  Yes.  Blown? Maybe.  Should it have mattered? No.  But regardless, Cubs are now breathing down Brewers necks.  Not a spot the Crew has responded to well in the last couple of years, has it?

Juiceman:

The pitch was close but why did that pitch matter so much?

Because it ended the game?

I defended you earlier.

I retract.

If the game had ended that way in favor of the Brewers you'd be just as big of a ***.

Juiceman:

  Walk Milton Bradley???? Are you kidding me?

Look at DiFelice's splits.  Learn the game of baseball.

$135 million payroll

The sure sign of a loser.  Not winning a championship in 100 years.

The_Igniter:

$135 million payroll

The sure sign of a loser.  Not winning a championship in 100 years.

Yeah but what are you gonna do?  Maybe this year, this game, with that excellent call at the end of the game, will be the catalyst the Cubs need to propel themselves to their first champiionship in 101 years.  And we will have Mark DeFelice, Ken Macha and the Brewers to thank.

ike1024:

Juiceman:

The pitch was close but why did that pitch matter so much?

Because it ended the game?

I defended you earlier.

I retract.

If the game had ended that way in favor of the Brewers you'd be just as big of a ***.

i agree ike had it been the cubs pitching on that play, all roles are reversed.   For the sake of arguement, cause no doubt it could of been called a strike , its a bitter pill to swallow and you guys got every right to be mad about it.  but also if reversed there would zero sympathy for the cubs and thats also a fact.

The_Igniter:

$135 million payroll

The sure sign of a loser.  Not winning a championship in 100 years.

this is a big loser post, keep the crap out here.

ike1024:

Look at DiFelice's splits.  Learn the game of baseball.

I don't look at splits from some guy who won't be in the league by the end of this year or next.  Bradley had to relearn how to hit lefty this week.  Didn't Macha get the memo?  And if DeFelice can't get a lefty out, why not bring in someone who can?  Where was Coffey?  Or Hoffman?  Oh yeah, Hoffman is a closer and can only come in if the Brewers have the lead.  Looks like he won't get much action this series

ike1024:

Because it ended the game?

I defended you earlier.

I retract.

If the game had ended that way in favor of the Brewers you'd be just as big of a ***.

Ike, I am just royally ticked at Einstein for the posts he had another thread and I am letting my temper get the best of me.  I know it looked like a bad call and I would be just as mad as you guys are.  But the truth is, that ninth inning was horribly managed by Macha.

 I don't know why this is so difficult. All of these things are true:

(a) The Brewers offense played poorly

(b) The Brewers' manager set his pitcher up to fail by taking his approach away from the strike zone, and willfully walking two consecutive batters.

(c) It was a blown call.

 

All of those things cost the Brewers the game. Anyone who thinks the blown call didn't play a significant part in the Cubs' winning is simply ignorant of the facts. That doesn't mean that other things didn't contribute to the loss, either.

People are taking stupidly one-dimensional arguments on this. It was a blown call and the Brewers did other things to lose the game.

Juiceman:

ike1024:

Look at DiFelice's splits.  Learn the game of baseball.

I don't look at splits from some guy who won't be in the league by the end of this year or next.  Bradley had to relearn how to hit lefty this week.  Didn't Macha get the memo?  And if DeFelice can't get a lefty out, why not bring in someone who can?  Where was Coffey?  Or Hoffman?  Oh yeah, Hoffman is a closer and can only come in if the Brewers have the lead.  Looks like he won't get much action this series

 

And you claim not to be a troll? That sounds like something a troll would say, something of no real value just to stir the pot.

The call directly ended the game, it was a 3-2 count, if it's a 3-1 count or just 1 out then you could say "well no way knowing he gets out of it", but if that's called a strike, it's inning over, and there is a decent chance (not sure of stats of away team winning extra innings, but maybe 40-45 percent chance?) that they pull it off.

Secondly, I don't see how anyone can say that it wasn't blown, it defintely wasn't high, so I'm guessing most people think it was inside. Well if you take a look it was over the plate, not even on the black, it was over the white of the plate so I don't see how it was borderline at all.

Besides, if Brewers fans believe so deeply in their team's awful performance, and truly believe that the team would have lost anyhow, they should be furious at the umpire for taking that privilege away from the players on the field.

If you think your team sucks, why would you want umpires depriving yourself of the sadistic pleasure of watching your favorite team play through extra innings?

radio silence:

 I don't know why this is so difficult. All of these things are true:

(a) The Brewers offense played poorly

(b) The Brewers' manager set his pitcher up to fail by taking his approach away from the strike zone, and willfully walking two consecutive batters.

(c) It was a blown call.

 

All of those things cost the Brewers the game. Anyone who thinks the blown call didn't play a significant part in the Cubs' winning is simply ignorant of the facts. That doesn't mean that other things didn't contribute to the loss, either.

People are taking stupidly one-dimensional arguments on this. It was a blown call and the Brewers did other things to lose the game.

That's about the extent of it.

I don't know why this is so hard for people to grasp.

radio silence:

Besides, if Brewers fans believe so deeply in their team's awful performance, and truly believe that the team would have lost anyhow, they should be furious at the umpire for taking that privilege away from the players on the field.

If you think your team sucks, why would you want umpires depriving yourself of the sadistic pleasure of watching your favorite team play through extra innings?

 

I'm not sure, I would have thought for sure some "martyrs" were hoping Hall got put in, in extra innings and somehow got injured and was out for the season. 

Juiceman:

The sure sign of a loser...one call never is the reason a team loses a game.  The pitch was close but why did that pitch matter so much?  Oh yeah, the bases were loaded because the bases had been loaded by a combination of poor play and really bad managerial decisions.  Walk Milton Bradley???? Are you kidding me?  The guys has batted third or fourth the majority of the year and has 17, count em, 17 RBI.  I am old school so I know the true baseball men like Einsteinhood will tell you RBI's pale in comparison to some statistic off Baseball Prospectus but still, 17 RBI is pretty lame.  Follow that up by walking Geo Soto?  I thanked Macha for both of those moves.  How does that escape criticism?  Blame it on the ump!  Was the call close?  Yes.  Blown? Maybe.  Should it have mattered? No.  But regardless, Cubs are now breathing down Brewers necks.  Not a spot the Crew has responded to well in the last couple of years, has it?

You're a piece of s***, scumbag troll, and you're exactly the karmic reason why the Cubs are the biggest losers in sports history.

Their dumb, obnoxious, co**sucking fans.

Go f*** yourself, you pile of s***.