thebaumer:

I made the statement that he isn't a good passer.

 

I want evidence.  Give me one piece please.

thebaumer:

I don't have to PROVE he is poor.

 

This was the original statement.  That he is a poor passer.

thebaumer:

P.S. Dude, do actually think I think I could prove anything to you?

 

By the way you've discussed the topic on here, no.  I don't think you have proven anything to anybody. All you've done is prove that Pat White, Barry White, Danny Wuerfell, Danny Thomas, Tommy Frazier and Tommy Hilfiger have all done something.  But you beat around the bush so much no one actually knows what.

thebaumer:

I baited with Tebow and watched you run with it.

 

LOL.  Nice technique.  8 pages of documentation of you not proving anything regarding your original statement and then the backpeddaling statement "I was just messing with you".

thebaumer:

P.P.S. Tebow is a poor passer. Sorry. Truth hurts.

 

LOL.  You still haven't shown one piece of evidence.  Not even one backing up this statement.  Give me one piece of evidence that you base this upon BESIDES your jealousy of Tim Tebow and hatred of the SEC.

thebaumer:

Funny how you never mentioned it till after you trotted out stats. So strange.

 

I have to play my worst cards first and then proceed from there.

thebaumer:

I'm sure you did watch every game. Drooling while rubbing yourself.

I don't drool.  Is this another insensitive comment against individual's with disabilities?  You are one sick puppy!

CollegeFootballGuru:

 

thebaumer:

I made the statement that he isn't a good passer.

 

I want evidence.  Give me one piece please.

thebaumer:

I don't have to PROVE he is poor.

 

This was the original statement.  That he is a poor passer.

thebaumer:

P.S. Dude, do actually think I think I could prove anything to you?

 

By the way you've discussed the topic on here, no.  I don't think you have proven anything to anybody. All you've done is prove that Pat White, Barry White, Danny Wuerfell, Danny Thomas, Tommy Frazier and Tommy Hilfiger have all done something.  But you beat around the bush so much no one actually knows what.

thebaumer:

I baited with Tebow and watched you run with it.

 

LOL.  Nice technique.  8 pages of documentation of you not proving anything regarding your original statement and then the backpeddaling statement "I was just messing with you".

thebaumer:

P.P.S. Tebow is a poor passer. Sorry. Truth hurts.

 

LOL.  You still haven't shown one piece of evidence.  Not even one backing up this statement.  Give me one piece of evidence that you base this upon BESIDES your jealousy of Tim Tebow and hatred of the SEC.

1. Beyond the stats that i've presented? Beyond the scouts? What more do you need?

2. You clearly don't understand debate or logic. If i put something out there, it is your job to disprove it.

3. 8 pages of you willfully avoiding anything that you don't agree with.

4. Right. LOL

5. Sure i haven't. Yeah, i'm real jealous of Tebow. It is eating me up inside.

thebaumer:

Beyond the stats that i've presented?

 

The only stats you've presented have been from Pat White and Barry White.  Give me one regarding Tim Tebow please.

Or can't you find any?

LOL.

CollegeFootballGuru:

thebaumer:

Beyond the stats that i've presented?

 

The only stats you've presented have been from Pat White and Barry White.  Give me one regarding Tim Tebow please.

Or can't you find any?

LOL.

I guess you forgot the mentioning of YARDAGE. LOL

thebaumer:

CollegeFootballGuru:

thebaumer:

Beyond the stats that i've presented?

 

The only stats you've presented have been from Pat White and Barry White.  Give me one regarding Tim Tebow please.

Or can't you find any?

LOL.

I guess you forgot the mentioning of YARDAGE. LOL

You are such a simpleton.  A high completion percentage is a telling factor of someone's passing ability.  A low number of interceptions is a telling factor in determining someone's passing ability.  A great TD/interception ratio is an indication of one's passing ability.  A low yardage total, (when someone else has three high areas in completion percentage, interceptions, TD/int. ratio) simply says that someone hasn't had to pass as much for any particular reason.  Maybe their team ran more.  Maybe the quarterback ran more.  Maybe the team was up by a lot and wasn't passing as much.

You make this too easy. 

How does Tim Tebow's yardage total PROVE he is a POOR passer?

CollegeFootballGuru:

thebaumer:

CollegeFootballGuru:

thebaumer:

Beyond the stats that i've presented?

 

The only stats you've presented have been from Pat White and Barry White.  Give me one regarding Tim Tebow please.

Or can't you find any?

LOL.

I guess you forgot the mentioning of YARDAGE. LOL

You are such a simpleton.  A high completion percentage is a telling factor of someone's passing ability.  A low number of interceptions is a telling factor in determining someone's passing ability.  A great TD/interception ratio is an indication of one's passing ability.  A low yardage total, (when someone else has three high areas in completion percentage, interceptions, TD/int. ratio) simply says that someone hasn't had to pass as much for any particular reason.  Maybe their team ran more.  Maybe the quarterback ran more.  Maybe the team was up by a lot and wasn't passing as much.

You make this too easy. 

I see. When the stat presented doesn't favor you, you argue other things. LOL

The fact is you said i hadn't presented. I had. YOU LOSE.

Care to compare TT's number of passes and his yardage to other SEC greats?

1. Completion percent: What about dinks and bubble passes. Naw, we wouldn't expect any qb to have a high completion percent in the spread. Geez, that was the whole point of showing Pat White's stats.

2. Ints. Again, that was the point of comparing other QBs. Ints need to be compared to other numbers or they are meaningless

I see a bunch of "maybe" this, "maybe" that...all of which translates into: I have nothing, but i will just spout off.

CollegeFootballGuru:

How does Tim Tebow's yardage total PROVE he is a POOR passer?

Well, you factor in his mediocre passing completion rate, his poor yardage, the types of passes, the scout's evals, my own eyes, etc...and you have a poor passer. Guy can't even pass as good as Leak. LOL

thebaumer:

Care to compare TT's number of passes and his yardage to other SEC greats?

 

Tell me how lower yardage than other SEC greats proves he is a POOR passer?  

I never said he was a GREAT passer.  Way to try to put words in my mouth.  Comparing his yardage to other SEC greats would not be relevant to our discussion at all.  All I said is that he wasn't POOR.  Comparing his numbers to other greats or showing that he didn't finish a certain statistic in the top 10% or top 20% of others doesn't prove anything.  Couldn't there be 10 great passers?  Couldn't there be 20 great passers?  Couldn't there be 30 great passers?   Tim Tebow could throw for a completion percentage of over 75% and, statistically speaking, could still be rank #11 in the SEC if he had 10 better passers.  Would that make him a POOR passer?  Owned. 

 

thebaumer:

Geez, that was the whole point of showing Pat White's stats.

 

LOL.  It only took you 9 pages of online memory for you to attempt to bring that full circle.  Fail.  LOL.

P.S.  And it didn't make any more sense the 100th time you said it.  LOL.

 

thebaumer:

When the stat presented doesn't favor you, you argue other things.

 

LOL.  I feel honored.  You state that I can't address my Tim Tebow points with stats.  But then you use my approach, mimic me actually, and attempt to bring up stats to address your points.  

Your'e welcome.  LOL.

CollegeFootballGuru:

thebaumer:

Care to compare TT's number of passes and his yardage to other SEC greats?

 

Tell me how lower yardage than other SEC greats proves he is a POOR passer?  

I never said he was a GREAT passer.  Way to try to put words in my mouth.  Comparing his yardage to other SEC greats would not be relevant to our discussion at all.  All I said is that he wasn't POOR.  Comparing his numbers to other greats or showing that he didn't finish a certain statistic in the top 10% or top 20% of others doesn't prove anything.  Couldn't there be 10 great passers?  Couldn't there be 20 great passers?  Couldn't there be 30 great passers?   Tim Tebow could throw for a completion percentage of over 75% and, statistically speaking, could still be rank #11 in the SEC if he had 10 better passers.  Would that make him a POOR passer?  Owned. 

 

I doubt it can be explained to you in a way that you will accept.

CollegeFootballGuru:

thebaumer:

Geez, that was the whole point of showing Pat White's stats.

 

LOL.  It only took you 9 pages of online memory for you to attempt to bring that full circle.  Fail.  LOL.

P.S.  And it didn't make any more sense the 100th time you said it.  LOL.

Translation: I'm flailing.

CollegeFootballGuru:

 

thebaumer:

When the stat presented doesn't favor you, you argue other things.

 

LOL.  I feel honored.  You state that I can't address my Tim Tebow points with stats.  But then you use my approach, mimic me actually, and attempt to bring up stats to address your points.  

Your'e welcome.  LOL.

Trying to break out the old material i see. Never said you can't use stats. Fail.