...he sure did lay an egg on Sunday. Again against Peterson.

From JSonline.com:

Bishop has to become less of a boom-or-bust player for the coaches to trust him. Though he's known to make big hits and force turnovers, he also takes too many chances, and that gets him in trouble.

Against the Vikings, he made a critical error on the screen pass that running back Adrian Peterson turned into a 44-yard gain late in the game. Bishop was supposed to play contain on the screen, but he bit too hard in the middle and allowed guard Steve Hutchinson to take him out of the play.

"He made one critical error at a critical point in the game that's unacceptable," linebackers coach WinstonMoss said. "That being said, it goes back into evaluating whether he's the best guy for that position going into next week. We'll evaluate that. We'll come up with the best scenario to see who should play the position."

 

Bishop blew it by going underneath Hutchinson on Peterson's 44-yard screen, hesitated on a blitz and cost McCarthy a timeout by being the 12th man on the field. He is a striker, but his game needs sharpening.

swany11:

...he sure did lay an egg on Sunday. Again against Peterson.

From JSonline.com:

Bishop has to become less of a boom-or-bust player for the coaches to trust him. Though he's known to make big hits and force turnovers, he also takes too many chances, and that gets him in trouble.

Against the Vikings, he made a critical error on the screen pass that running back Adrian Peterson turned into a 44-yard gain late in the game. Bishop was supposed to play contain on the screen, but he bit too hard in the middle and allowed guard Steve Hutchinson to take him out of the play.

"He made one critical error at a critical point in the game that's unacceptable," linebackers coach WinstonMoss said. "That being said, it goes back into evaluating whether he's the best guy for that position going into next week. We'll evaluate that. We'll come up with the best scenario to see who should play the position."

 

Bishop blew it by going underneath Hutchinson on Peterson's 44-yard screen, hesitated on a blitz and cost McCarthy a timeout by being the 12th man on the field. He is a striker, but his game needs sharpening.

He'll get more time the next few weeks with Chillar out getting his hand fixed. Hopefully he'll learn a few things from the tape of Sunday.

I didnt see any of our LB's making plays other then Clay Matthews.  Apparently we're not as strong at LB as were we lead to beleive.  If we're gonna run the 3-4 again next year our off-season acquisitions need to consist of LB's who can come off the edge(bye bye Kampy), and beast MLB, and a Defensive End who can push the pocket and get after the QB.  Jolly & Jenkins look barely servicable on passing downs.  Doesn't help that Jolly is more concerned with playing patty cake and volleyball defense then actually gettin after the passer.

Astute observation about a key lapse from Bishop.  It's feast-or-famine with this guy and he needs to be more consistent.

If the Packers are going to stick with the 3-4 they will need better play from the LBs and perhaps Kampy is just plain miscast as a 3-4 LB.  I'm less concerned with a lack of numbers from the DEs in this formation--they're mainly there for gap control and the sacks usually come from one of the LBs.

thepack:

I didnt see any of our LB's making plays other then Clay Matthews.  Apparently we're not as strong at LB as were we lead to beleive.  If we're gonna run the 3-4 again next year our off-season acquisitions need to consist of LB's who can come off the edge(bye bye Kampy), and beast MLB, and a Defensive End who can push the pocket and get after the QB.  Jolly & Jenkins look barely servicable on passing downs.  Doesn't help that Jolly is more concerned with playing patty cake and volleyball defense then actually gettin after the passer.

 

 Solid take, since they won't use the scheme to fit the personal......they'll have to acquire the personal to fit the scheme.  Too bad that might mean that Kampman will likely end up a Viking where he can put his hand on the ground and rush the passer every play........which is his strength.

swany11:

...he sure did lay an egg on Sunday. Again against Peterson.

From JSonline.com:

Bishop has to become less of a boom-or-bust player for the coaches to trust him. Though he's known to make big hits and force turnovers, he also takes too many chances, and that gets him in trouble.

Against the Vikings, he made a critical error on the screen pass that running back Adrian Peterson turned into a 44-yard gain late in the game. Bishop was supposed to play contain on the screen, but he bit too hard in the middle and allowed guard Steve Hutchinson to take him out of the play.

"He made one critical error at a critical point in the game that's unacceptable," linebackers coach WinstonMoss said. "That being said, it goes back into evaluating whether he's the best guy for that position going into next week. We'll evaluate that. We'll come up with the best scenario to see who should play the position."

Unfortunately, Swany I agree with you that Bishop looks out of his element playing in a regular season game ... another TT draft pick miss I guess. Now, as a longtime Hawk backer, what do you think it says about AJ when the coaches play a 6th round pick who blows coverages and does not know he is the 12th man on the field ahead of AJ Hawk -- the 5th pick overall in the 2006 draft?

 

Bishop blew it by going underneath Hutchinson on Peterson's 44-yard screen, hesitated on a blitz and cost McCarthy a timeout by being the 12th man on the field. He is a striker, but his game needs sharpening.

How often does Bishop get to play?

A screen pass is a deception.  I'm not surprised that a guy who isn't playing all that much was deceived by a guard who is thought to be one of the best.  Read Nitschke's book Mean on Sunday.  He states that he was taken advantage of early on in his career on passing downs and screens because he was overly aggressive.  By playing he learned to make the reads necessary to become a great linebacker.

Bishop will never learn the subtleties of the screens and deception plays in the film room or in practice.  He needs to play, get burned, learn from that mistake, and not make it again.  At least, I think he needs to be given the chance to learn.

Bishop made the critical mistake?  Come on.  Jolly made the critical mistake in the first quarter.  McCarthy made the critical mistake at 3rd and 8 when he called a deep pass to make a splash.  The special teams made the critical mistake on every kick off return.

Bishop has been on special teams since he got to the Pack.  He's to blame for being a 12th man out there?  Didn't one of our coaches have the sense to tell him his responsibilities changed so he wasn't going out there?  With our great discipline do you really think the coaches informed him or just figured he knew?

BS.  I want Bishop on the field more!  Our linebackers do the wrong thing constantly.  It's not going to hurt if he doesn't improve.  It will help if he does improve.

When Chillar gets back, I'd like to see Matthews, Chillar, Bishop and Barnett on the outside.  Rotate Kampman at outside linebacker and defensive end.

kegman:

How often does Bishop get to play?

A screen pass is a deception.  I'm not surprised that a guy who isn't playing all that much was deceived by a guard who is thought to be one of the best.  Read Nitschke's book Mean on Sunday.  He states that he was taken advantage of early on in his career on passing downs and screens because he was overly aggressive.  By playing he learned to make the reads necessary to become a great linebacker.

Bishop will never learn the subtleties of the screens and deception plays in the film room or in practice.  He needs to play, get burned, learn from that mistake, and not make it again.  At least, I think he needs to be given the chance to learn.

Bishop made the critical mistake?  Come on.  Jolly made the critical mistake in the first quarter.  McCarthy made the critical mistake at 3rd and 8 when he called a deep pass to make a splash.  The special teams made the critical mistake on every kick off return.

Bishop has been on special teams since he got to the Pack.  He's to blame for being a 12th man out there?  Didn't one of our coaches have the sense to tell him his responsibilities changed so he wasn't going out there?  With our great discipline do you really think the coaches informed him or just figured he knew?

BS.  I want Bishop on the field more!  Our linebackers do the wrong thing constantly.  It's not going to hurt if he doesn't improve.  It will help if he does improve.

When Chillar gets back, I'd like to see Matthews, Chillar, Bishop and Barnett on the outside.  Rotate Kampman at outside linebacker and defensive end.

Tork, I realize I left Hawk out because.

However, I'll stand by my statements about Bishop.  He won't get better if he doesn't get playing time and learn to recognize when teams are taking advantage of his aggession.  I'd still like to see from outside to inside and back: Matthews, Chillar, Bishop, Barnett with Kampman rotating at defensive end and outside linebacker.

 So you play the guy who has always made stupid mistakes every time he sees the field hoping he'll get better cause he also has shown flashes of talent?  I think we've discovered our lone Ahmad Carroll fan.  There is a time for letting young players make mistakes and develop, and the midst of a season where you're in playoff contention is not one of them, unless you have no better options. 

 Interestingly enough this is the second time Bishop's been burned on a big play by Peterson after being inserted into the lineup for an injured starter.

I think he will get better with experience, but I guess I'd lean towards Hawk for the moment. Maybe he'll pick up his play. If not, then give Bishop a chance.

prime311:

 So you play the guy who has always made stupid mistakes every time he sees the field hoping he'll get better cause he also has shown flashes of talent?  I think we've discovered our lone Ahmad Carroll fan.  There is a time for letting young players make mistakes and develop, and the midst of a season where you're in playoff contention is not one of them, unless you have no better options. 

Also sounds like Nick Collins (pro bowler)

prime311:

 So you play the guy who has always made stupid mistakes every time he sees the field hoping he'll get better cause he also has shown flashes of talent?  I think we've discovered our lone Ahmad Carroll fan.  There is a time for letting young players make mistakes and develop, and the midst of a season where you're in playoff contention is not one of them, unless you have no better options. 

kegman:

How often does Bishop get to play?

A screen pass is a deception.  I'm not surprised that a guy who isn't playing all that much was deceived by a guard who is thought to be one of the best.  Read Nitschke's book Mean on Sunday.  He states that he was taken advantage of early on in his career on passing downs and screens because he was overly aggressive.  By playing he learned to make the reads necessary to become a great linebacker.

Bishop will never learn the subtleties of the screens and deception plays in the film room or in practice.  He needs to play, get burned, learn from that mistake, and not make it again.  At least, I think he needs to be given the chance to learn.

Bishop made the critical mistake?  Come on.  Jolly made the critical mistake in the first quarter.  McCarthy made the critical mistake at 3rd and 8 when he called a deep pass to make a splash.  The special teams made the critical mistake on every kick off return.

Bishop has been on special teams since he got to the Pack.  He's to blame for being a 12th man out there?  Didn't one of our coaches have the sense to tell him his responsibilities changed so he wasn't going out there?  With our great discipline do you really think the coaches informed him or just figured he knew?

BS.  I want Bishop on the field more!  Our linebackers do the wrong thing constantly.  It's not going to hurt if he doesn't improve.  It will help if he does improve.

When Chillar gets back, I'd like to see Matthews, Chillar, Bishop and Barnett on the outside.  Rotate Kampman at outside linebacker and defensive end.

St. Lou:

In GB right now, it is all politics and who you are blowing that gets you playing time!

So who did Bishop blow to get on the field?

Would you have had him starting over Chillar?