I apologize if this has already been posted. For some reason it might have been.

I am a big stats guy, and I don't know if I can remember a season where stats have been either misleading, or mind-bogglingly weird (I think I just made a new word). 

Offense has given up an alarming number of sacks, # 1 in the league.

Despite that, Rodgers is leading the league in passer rating. Unheard of for someone under that much pressure.

And the offense is #9 in the league based on yardage, #8 based on points per game.

Tied for #1 in TO ratio at +12.

Defense is rated #9 in points allowed. #4 in yards per game.

#9 in rushing yards per game, #3 in yards per carry

#7 in QB passer rating, #4 in INT's.

According to USAToday, their strength of schedule is ranked #24 in the league, so that is the first thing you would look at. But other than that, the stats just don't smell right.

Agreed.  Two things I can think of:

1.  The chasm between the likes of Minny/Cin v. STL/Det/Cle is so large that it's hard to get a good read on what these stats mean.  Numbers aside, where does this team really stand?

2.  They've put up big numbers on Minny after falling way behind twice, which also may mislead those stats a bit. 

Base Knox:

Agreed.  Two things I can think of:

1.  The chasm between the likes of Minny/Cin v. STL/Det/Cle is so large that it's hard to get a good read on what these stats mean.  Numbers aside, where does this team really stand?

2.  They've put up big numbers on Minny after falling way behind twice, which also may mislead those stats a bit. 

1. We won't know until the Dallas game.

Agreed on #2, but then you have to compare how all the other teams acquired their stats. Can't compare teams based on two sets of standards. Not saying it isn't misleading, but hard to say.

Base Knox:

Agreed.  Two things I can think of:

1.  The chasm between the likes of Minny/Cin v. STL/Det/Cle is so large that it's hard to get a good read on what these stats mean.  Numbers aside, where does this team really stand?

2.  They've put up big numbers on Minny after falling way behind twice, which also may mislead those stats a bit. 

Answer to point 1, the next few weeks with another cupcake and two decent teams will answer a lot of that. Though Minnesota played all three of the patsies we did and didn't do nearly as well offensively or defensively as Green Bay.

If it's 1 win with lots of yards and 2 low productions losses  the next 3 weeks then I'd say that probably we aren't who we thought we were (from the coaches perspective). If it ends up being 2-1 with a lot of yards in all 3 games, then it will have to be looked at differently.

Point 2 doesn't really skew that stats that much. NFL rankings are "per game". The Detroit game was opposite Minnesota tons of yards and points in the first half, no production in the 2nd, but it all averages out.

This year kind of reminds me of the Air Coryell years in San Diego. They were always league leaders in offense, but the defense could never get the one big stop to put them over the top.

Good counter, fellas. 

I think you're both right, the next few games against solid, but 2nd-tier competition will tell the real story on whether this team is decent or just great at accumulating numbers.

 but the defense could never get the one big stop to put them over the top.

Or,  how bout....  the defense would ALWAYS  make the big stop ,  but some thug - bone-head  would go Mixed-Martial on somebody's Skull

swany11:

Offense has given up an alarming number of sacks, # 1 in the league.

Despite that, Rodgers is leading the league in passer rating. Unheard of for someone under that much pressure.

That's because you dont lose rating points when you take a sack. Erin takes sacks all the time just to keep his qb rating high. No wonder some scouts call Erin "stat-boy," a la "Jeff Garcia."   

You think Brett Favre gives a rat about his rating when he throws the ball away?

Humbert (aka Tank)

Why "Erin" all the time??  I mean really....what IS the reason??

Humbert's real name is Sally, that's why.....

 And... he is a TOTAL idiot!!!!!!!

 

Maybe this will help you, I'd say they were skewed a tad. :

Defenses:

Rk	Team	G	Pts/G	TotPts	Scrm Plys	Yds/G	Yds/P	1st/G	3rd Md	3rd Att	3rd Pct	4th Md	4th Att	4th Pct	Pen	Pen Yds	ToP/G	FUM	Lost

19	Minnesota Vikings	8	21.8	174	490	332.6	5.4	18.5	36	102	35	5	9	56	50	444	28:20	19	7
20	San Francisco 49ers	7	20	140	465	337.0	5.1	18.6	45	110	41	2	6	33	57	457	30:54	12	4
21	Cincinnati Bengals	7	18.3	128	433	341.3	5.5	17.7	36	91	40	3	6	50	50	390	30:17	10	4
22	Dallas Cowboys	7	19.4	136	449	342.1	5.3	19.6	31	89	35	4	6	67	40	334	29:53	11	5
23	Detroit Lions	7	29.3	205	420	369.6	6.2	20.6	28	76	37	4	5	80	48	428	29:51	13	4
24	Jacksonville Jaguars	7	25.3	177	447	370.7	5.8	20.3	40	90	44	4	7	57	32	285	31:22	10	5
25	Buffalo Bills	8	21.1	169	568	372.4	5.2	20.1	44	121	36	9	16	56	64	546	34:13	9	3
26	Oakland Raiders	8	25.1	201	534	373.2	5.6	21.0	42	110	38	7	10	70	39	288	33:22	15	5
27	St. Louis Rams	8	27.6	221	524	373.4	5.7	22.2	53	107	50	1	4	25	40	321	32:31	8	3
28	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	7	29	203	431	376.4	6.1	20.0	39	88	44	3	4	75	43	403	31:23	6	3
29	Atlanta Falcons	7	21.3	149	459	378.1	5.8	20.4	45	96	47	5	8	62	44	344	30:59	15	11
30	Kansas City Chiefs	7	25.9	181	450	383.1	6.0	18.4	40	101	40	2	6	33	55	396	30:05	13	5
31	Tennessee Titans	7	30.1	211	464	394.9	6.0	20.7	36	96	38	4	6	67	34	270	32:51	10	4
32	Cleveland Browns	8	26.1	209	555	409.1	5.9	22.4	45	113	40	5	10	50	52	428	34:23	9

Offenses:

Total Yards

Rk	Team	G	Pts/G	TotPts	Scrm Plys	Yds/G	Yds/P	1st/G	3rd Md	3rd Att	3rd Pct	4th Md	4th Att	4th Pct	Pen	Pen Yds	ToP/G	FUM	Lost	TO

20	Chicago Bears	7	22.7	159	424	320.3	5.3	17.0	37	93	40	4	9	44	42	345	30:13	12	3	-1
21	Carolina Panthers	7	18.3	128	445	318.6	5.0	17.7	33	91	36	6	10	60	41	321	30:09	12	7	-8
22	Seattle Seahawks	7	19.3	135	460	309.9	4.7	18.9	37	100	37	5	7	71	33	279	27:58	14	7	-3
23	Miami Dolphins	7	25.1	176	460	305.4	4.6	19.6	54	107	50	5	7	71	40	323	32:54	10	6	-2
24	Washington Redskins	7	13.7	96	410	296.0	5.1	16.4	25	86	29	5	11	46	39	347	27:44	20	8	-8
25	Detroit Lions	7	16.1	113	461	292.6	4.4	18.1	42	106	40	4	10	40	49	407	30:09	11	2	-4
26	St. Louis Rams	8	9.6	77	477	287.6	4.8	16.6	33	103	32	3	10	30	55	477	28:22	12	9	-7
27	San Francisco 49ers	7	21	147	395	275.3	4.9	14.4	26	92	28	2	5	40	46	385	29:06	12	5	+1
28	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	7	13.7	96	415	272.3	4.6	15.1	30	95	32	6	12	50	42	322	28:37	12	2	-2
29	Buffalo Bills	8	15.4	123	466	264.8	4.5	14.5	27	104	26	4	9	44	59	458	27:19	10	6	+3
30	Kansas City Chiefs	7	15	105	443	251.6	4.0	15.4	21	100	21	11	17	65	47	351	30:51	12	2	+1
31	Cleveland Browns	8	9.8	78	463	221.1	3.8	12.9	27	109	25	1	4	25	37	343	27:29	15	10	-11
32	Oakland Raiders	8	9.8	78	435	215.8	4.0	12.2	30	102	29	5	10	50	47	343	26:38	16	10	-9

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HumbertHumbert:

No wonder some scouts call Erin "stat-boy," a la "Jeff Garcia."   

What scouts?  If you say it like it's fact, you must have read it somewhere.

Look.. Rodgers has been a statistical dream this year against an overall easy schedule.

learning to make things happen out of not much to nothing will come with more reps or it wont. only time will tell.


that being said, many here were saying that we would be 6-1 right now, no problem.

Ill say it a thousand times until it happens.. until we beat a team that over matches us in many areas (and we have plenty to round out the year) we will continue to be mediocre.

sad thing is, we have most the talent.

we get out coached offensively nearly every game.

Here’s the most alarming stat: we are 4-3 and playing second fiddle to the Vikings in the NFC North.

We have played the sort of football that makes most fans cringe and go to the kitchen to get another beer when we have the ball. We are not crisp, decisive or focused and don’t instill confidence.

The play of this years team is not less filling and does not taste great, despite the great "calorie" count of our QB.

But we are still in it, and I look forward to the rematch with the Vikings in the playoffs (V-Day).