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  • 11-06-2009 10:46 AM

    Hardy traded to Twins

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    Brewercom Brewers acquire CF Carlos Gomez from Minnesota in exchange for SS J.J. Hardy.

    Baseball is a game of the long season, of relentless and gradual averaging-out. Irrelevance—since the reference point of most individual games is remote and statistical—always threatens its interest, which can be maintained not by the occasional heroics that sportswriters feed upon but by players who always care; who care, that is to say, about themselves and their art. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, he is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

  • 11-06-2009 10:49 AM In reply to

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    Please be wrong.  Gomez is great defensively but his sucky bat more than cancels that out

  • 11-06-2009 10:50 AM In reply to

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     At first glance, not a fan.

    Baseball is a game of the long season, of relentless and gradual averaging-out. Irrelevance—since the reference point of most individual games is remote and statistical—always threatens its interest, which can be maintained not by the occasional heroics that sportswriters feed upon but by players who always care; who care, that is to say, about themselves and their art. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, he is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

  • 11-06-2009 10:51 AM In reply to

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    Haudricourt That's according to the Brewercom. And now I have it confirmed.

    Baseball is a game of the long season, of relentless and gradual averaging-out. Irrelevance—since the reference point of most individual games is remote and statistical—always threatens its interest, which can be maintained not by the occasional heroics that sportswriters feed upon but by players who always care; who care, that is to say, about themselves and their art. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, he is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

  • 11-06-2009 10:57 AM In reply to

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    Terrible trade for the Brewers.

     

    I apologize to Radio, I guess he was right.

  • 11-06-2009 10:58 AM In reply to

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    This ain't good. Can't hit at all. Can't get on base, no power, basically a black hole at the plate. At least Hardy had some history of being a good hitter at one time.

  • 11-06-2009 10:58 AM In reply to

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    Not a big fan of this trade at all. I am all for possibly trading JJ for some Help (Pitching, etc), but I am not sure THIS trade makes sense.
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  • 11-06-2009 10:59 AM In reply to

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    Between Cam salary and JJ salary the Brewers cut almost 15 mil from their payroll.  It will be interesting to see what they do with that money. 

  • 11-06-2009 11:01 AM In reply to

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    brewguru:

    Terrible trade for the Brewers.

     

    I apologize to Radio, I guess he was right.

    He's young, fast and plays defense.  Also, he's moving from the AL to the NL.

    Unfortunately, he wasn't a great hitter in the minors.  Here is what John Sickels had to say about him in 2008:

    3) Carlos Gomez, OF, Grade B/B+: Traded to Twins. Hitting .250/.284/.349 with 21 steals. Fun to watch due to glove and speed, but horrible plate discipline and lack of consistent power remain huge problems. Big difference between tools and skills here.

    Like I said before, not really a fan of this trade.  They must not have any faith in Lorenzo Cain.

    Baseball is a game of the long season, of relentless and gradual averaging-out. Irrelevance—since the reference point of most individual games is remote and statistical—always threatens its interest, which can be maintained not by the occasional heroics that sportswriters feed upon but by players who always care; who care, that is to say, about themselves and their art. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, he is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

  • 11-06-2009 11:02 AM In reply to

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    Either this is a massive FAIL on Melvin's part, or Hardy's value had plummeted more than we realized.

  • 11-06-2009 11:02 AM In reply to

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    I'm underwhelmed with this move. I agree with SeattlePilot as it now appears to almost corner Melvin into either a trade and/or FA move for SP(s)

  • 11-06-2009 11:03 AM In reply to

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    badger80:

    brewguru:

    Terrible trade for the Brewers.

     

    I apologize to Radio, I guess he was right.

    He's young, fast and plays defense.  Also, he's moving from the AL to the NL.

    Unfortunately, he wasn't a great hitter in the minors.  Here is what John Sickels had to say about him in 2008:

    3) Carlos Gomez, OF, Grade B/B+: Traded to Twins. Hitting .250/.284/.349 with 21 steals. Fun to watch due to glove and speed, but horrible plate discipline and lack of consistent power remain huge problems. Big difference between tools and skills here.

    Like I said before, not really a fan of this trade.  They must not have any faith in Lorenzo Cain.

     

    Remember, his greatest asset is his speed, which is neutralized under the current manager.

  • 11-06-2009 11:04 AM In reply to

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    homebrewpack:

    This ain't good. Can't hit at all. Can't get on base, no power, basically a black hole at the plate. At least Hardy had some history of being a good hitter at one time.

    Escobar and whoever catches (probably Salome) won't be that good offensively either.  And Corey Hart and Weeks are guess too.  At least the team has great pitching.

  • 11-06-2009 11:06 AM In reply to

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    brewguru:

    badger80:

    brewguru:

    Terrible trade for the Brewers.

     

    I apologize to Radio, I guess he was right.

    He's young, fast and plays defense.  Also, he's moving from the AL to the NL.

    Unfortunately, he wasn't a great hitter in the minors.  Here is what John Sickels had to say about him in 2008:

    3) Carlos Gomez, OF, Grade B/B+: Traded to Twins. Hitting .250/.284/.349 with 21 steals. Fun to watch due to glove and speed, but horrible plate discipline and lack of consistent power remain huge problems. Big difference between tools and skills here.

    Like I said before, not really a fan of this trade.  They must not have any faith in Lorenzo Cain.

     

    Remember, his greatest asset is his speed, which is neutralized under the current manager.

    Who cares about his speed?  He won't be on base in the first place.
    Baseball is a game of the long season, of relentless and gradual averaging-out. Irrelevance—since the reference point of most individual games is remote and statistical—always threatens its interest, which can be maintained not by the occasional heroics that sportswriters feed upon but by players who always care; who care, that is to say, about themselves and their art. Insofar as the clutch hitter is not a sportswriter's myth, he is a vulgarity, like a writer who writes only for money.

  • 11-06-2009 11:08 AM In reply to

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    badger80:

    They must not have any faith in Lorenzo Cain.

    I have more faith in him becoming a quality big leaguer than Gomez.  Maybe he can Micael Bourn us and learn how to get on base though.  Then maybe the manager can actually run sometimes
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