Thanks, CCF, again for your posts.  I have a framed picture of Nitschke standing over Charley Taylor signed by John Biever--wish it were signed by Nitschke as well.  He was a giant in his day, wasn't he?

 So, Gilly, the problems the Packers have seem pretty insignificant, don't they.  We just have to thank God that we were born Packer fans!

Very detailed post, Prime.  However, I think revenue sharing may be in real trouble since pro football, as with everything else, money talks.  The big money boys would think nothing of destroying the NFL for a few years of increased profits.  Goodell will be under intense pressure from these guys, likely aided by the big name ...

Yes, there are differing stories from various sides.  Bottom line is that 80% of the people there still have nothing 15 years after democratic elections.

 Great thread on Rhodes, as well as everything else.  Interesting comment on the need for tough, hardnosed football and the lack of "fire and drive" that led Wolf to let Rhodes go.   Thank you CCF as usual.

Yes, the Zulu and Xhosa are ancient enemies and fights break out every election.  The new president is Zulu and an unabashed crook so the short term outlook is bleak.  The "Wild Coast" from below Durban to Port Elizabeth is spectacular and mostly undeveloped--the prettiest spots I've been are there.  You would enjoy ...

Gilly, I've done some volunteer work in Mthatha (formerly Umtata) over the last 10 years. Mandela still has a home just on the outskirts where he was born, and is there occasionally. I have a priest friend that has been in Transkei for over 35 years and was expelled twice from S.A.--once by the national apartheid gov't and another time ...

Gilly, what were you doing in Nigeria? I've spent some time in South Africa and a good friend there is Nigerian--a wonderful man. What with the civil wars, malaria and HIV they stand to lose a third of their population unless something changes.

 That idea smacks of democracy, Jack.  Absolutely unacceptable.

[quote user="St. Lou"] [quote user="JBlood24"]The pressure is apparently getting to Mike. [/quote] Well, we're going to get that fixed come January.  Seriously, MM may be starting a new trend: cleaning house from the bottom up. [/quote]  I hope you're wrong and we finish 12 and 4.   Anything worse ...